New contract for Southgate with England. That’s England not winning anything for a while then. In my opinion he’s a lucky guy to get that job with the salary. Everyone talks about the last World Cup and how well we did. Let’s be honest most of our goals came from set pieces, we were very lucky with the draw and as soon as we played anyone decent we got beat.
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Southgate and England
- Thread starter Del-boy
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Indeed.
But if I am honest with you, Guardiola would win nowt with this England team either.
radiostar
Player Valuation: £20m
Your right, as opposed to the glittering trophy laden era we have been enjoying for the last 50 years.
Tigger
Player Valuation: £35m
I'd love us to scab our way through a few competitions, he did better than any one else has done for 20 odd years so why not give him another crack? I though he would flop spectacularly and that may still happen but he has earned another go.
4737carlin
Player Valuation: £90m
Deserved that new contract, besides who else will they get and also the rate managers get the boot you can be sure someone soon would be in for him
goodisonopheliac
Player Valuation: £30m
England have won bugger all since 1966, tbf. Not his fault.
goodisonopheliac
Player Valuation: £30m
I'm unsure how I feel about Pickford being called up.
Billy Dean
Player Valuation: £70m
I like him. Intelligent guy, doesn’t pander to egos and has a clear idea of how he wants to play
wandyr79
Player Valuation: £25m
We probably deserved to get through to the semis just as much as we did in 90', if we are being honest but we (and rightly so) look back fondly on that tournament.
Tournaments is not always about destroying the opposition, it is game management, getting yourself through to give you a chance of winning.
France were awful at the start but managed their way through brilliantly once they needed to. This is what this and many, many England sides have not been able to do. We may have managed the group (in most cases) but then struggled after that where the better teams start to ramp it up.
I also don't get this set piece thing as if it is a negative. If you don't score from set pieces it is considered a flaw (like us against Fulham with all the corners) and if you do score a decent amount then it is considered a negative. A goal is a goal and set pieces are a massive part of the game, whether it be direct or building the play from that corner/free kick/throw in/etc.
Also, the didn't play anyone of note argument. People say that as if it is the players fault for playing the opposition as they came (although remember Sweden this is the team that finished ahead of Germany and beat Italy in the play offs, you can argue about the quality of that opposition but if England came up against them we would not be considered favourites). In 2002, Germany got to the final playing Ireland, Saudi Arabia (8-0) & Cameroon. They then beat Paraguay, USA & South Korea to get to the finals. It would be interesting to know how much stick they got for having an easy ride and then getting beat by the 1st decent side in the tournament.
For me it was the attitude of the team that was so refreshing, Southgate brought an U21 mentality to the team. A team willing to work for each other, no egos, nobody demanding respect but trying to earn it. Players just going out to play football as best they can. If we can continue with that mentality then we have a chance to develop these young players, even if they have to drop levels to get regular football (for now).
Seathestars
Player Valuation: £60m
Everton next
duncs pigeon
Player Valuation: £35m
Well said mate.
It's ok to commence a thread with a negative post but at least tell us who your alternative is, as far as I'm concerned Southgate and England did a lot better than I thought they would, he's probably more suited to International management than club.
He probably has less players to choose from now than any of his predecessors and is also under scrutiny more than any of them.
We have a very young England team, he and they both have a World Cup tournament as experience where they certainly didn't disgrace themselves, and looking around me I can see at this moment anyone else better suited for the job.
For those with short memories he took over from a certain Mr Allardyce so in my humble opinion he has done well since he took the reins and deserves to have a crack at the Euros with England.
Billy Dean
Player Valuation: £70m
To get to the semis with such a poor squad was a great achievement IMO. The 90s teams had the likes of Gazza, Waddle, Platt, Barnes, Beardsley, Lineker, etc.
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