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roydo said:
Kind of. Well yes, but the balloon exploded in a vacuum, so the debris is not on the floor, but floating all around the room. Science, gravity in particular takes over, and stuff starts circling around each other, bigger bits attracting smaller bits, and over time, pretty galaxies and solar systems develop.

The biggest bits of debris retain heat from the explosion, and they are suns. If the suns can heat up other bits of debris going round them, and hydrogen and oxygen are in those bits, you might get water created when those particles heat up. Then you might have a chance of life.

And cos its a vacuum, not a room, it will expand for ever, which brings us back to time, which we cant understand.
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ffs just read this back. (yes beer is involved now)

so this bang throws debris from every angle (in a vacuum at the same speed ect.. ) and from that it keeps rolling forward from that point which means its ever expanding yes?

as even in a vacuum to move you need a push.

if so where are we rolling/expanding with no resistance from? as it all still seems to point at that we are moving away from the bang/center/oldest.

am i wrong that everything said tonight still points at there being a center?

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so there is a center a start point?
 
Ace programme on C4 about the Space Station last night. Interviewed the astronauts live ffs! Another one on tonight and Friday. Really good stuff.
 

here is a thought to ponder, and hopefully get some opinions back on.

Right so we are on one planet in a possible endless amount of them. so any galaxies/universes/solar systems and we only have experience of our own little planet. We all think there is life out there somewhere else and it is true. Clearly there are enough planets to harbour an intelligent life form somewhere else apart from here, otherwise how scary would that be?

anyway to my point. We refer to life as bacteria or an animal, or walks on two legs, or the worst of us refer to the life as green/grey men in flying saucers. But what if the life out there was something we cannot comprehend? We think of things in the basis of what we know but in an infinite possibility that is space, surely intelligent life out there could be completely different to what we know as a human race on planet earth. Cue speculation about it here...... but we don't seem to accept on this planet that we don't actually know everything and as such, intelligent life out there may be far more intelligent or physically better than we will ever encounter in a thousand lifetimes.
 
Could well be mate. They could live in an enviroment that our knowledge of science cannot comprehend. Yet.

But in the search or life, we can only refer to our knowledge as a point of reference, so we only search for planets of similar size and distance from a sun as earth, cos if we find one, (and we have btw), that is more likely to be a result. Or not!!
 
Other life forms galaxies away could be sulphur clouds which interact using flashing lights and/or slightly dimming their level of brightness. They may survive by drinking liquid mercury and by eating primitive microbes the likes of which we cannot comprehend. They probably don't have jobs, relationships as we know them, or hobbies.

Or probably not. But its interesting.
 
chris ashton17 said:
here is a thought to ponder, and hopefully get some opinions back on.

Right so we are on one planet in a possible endless amount of them. so any galaxies/universes/solar systems and we only have experience of our own little planet. We all think there is life out there somewhere else and it is true. Clearly there are enough planets to harbour an intelligent life form somewhere else apart from here, otherwise how scary would that be?

anyway to my point. We refer to life as bacteria or an animal, or walks on two legs, or the worst of us refer to the life as green/grey men in flying saucers. But what if the life out there was something we cannot comprehend? We think of things in the basis of what we know but in an infinite possibility that is space, surely intelligent life out there could be completely different to what we know as a human race on planet earth. Cue speculation about it here...... but we don't seem to accept on this planet that we don't actually know everything and as such, intelligent life out there may be far more intelligent or physically better than we will ever encounter in a thousand lifetimes.
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This has often occurred to me. We talk of needing liquid water, sunlight, oxygen etc to live and certain temperature levels but even on earth we have now found organisms that live in conditions much harsher and different than we thought possible. For example on and around hydrothermal vents in the deep oceans where there is no sun, intense pressure and heat way above what we thought tolerable.

So god knows what organisms could live off in the billions of planets that are out there.
 
Wizard said:
This has often occurred to me. We talk of needing liquid water, sunlight, oxygen etc to live and certain temperature levels but even on earth we have now found organisms that live in conditions much harsher and different than we thought possible. For example on and around hydrothermal vents in the deep oceans where there is no sun, intense pressure and heat way above what we thought tolerable.

So god knows what organisms could live off in the billions of planets that are out there.
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Is so true that. On a Brian Cox programme he showed organisms living way underground, existing basically in and off sulphuric acid.

But the leap from micro organisms to intelligent life is huge. But by no means impossible, as we have proved!
 

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