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Sadly none that I've seen mate.
They did redo Super Star Wars from the SNES to PS4 and it's still the hardest computer game ever.
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Star Wars - Episode VII
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Sadly none that I've seen mate.
They did redo Super Star Wars from the SNES to PS4 and it's still the hardest computer game ever.
Philw
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Seen it 3 times now! Like it more each time I think 
First time I was quite critical, but the more I see it the less the -ves affect me and the more I can appreciate all the good things about it.
Referential
Ending
Casting/Characters
Overall
Toys
There's defo a bunch of stuff going on my birthday list!
Future
Trailer
First time I was quite critical, but the more I see it the less the -ves affect me and the more I can appreciate all the good things about it.Referential
Personally I enjoyed most of the bits that referenced or were similar to the originals, although first time round I felt it did go a little too far with the similarities towards the end - the Starkiller base attack and plan. Would have liked it better maybe if they'd just disabled/destroyed the weapon and not the whole planet. Most of the references before that I enjoyed (like when Finn activates the chess table and picks up the 'training ball' on the Falcon), and thought that the early story arc echoed, but was different enough from A New Hope to be familiar but not repetitive. As Jalen Rose used to say on Grantland, "You've got to give the people what they want!"
Also, does a film have to be original to be considered great? Tarrantino's films are massively referential/unoriginal, but he is considered one of the great directors of our time. I'd certainly prefer a good unoriginal film over one that was original but average/poor.
Also, does a film have to be original to be considered great? Tarrantino's films are massively referential/unoriginal, but he is considered one of the great directors of our time. I'd certainly prefer a good unoriginal film over one that was original but average/poor.
Ending
Thought the ending was quite good, but Luke's expression was a bit weird, like he was trying to look sad or resigned, but couldn't get it quite right. Feel like he felt Han's death, and knew that Rey arriving with his 'sabre meant bad things had gone down. Agree with the shot being a bit long, maybe could have ended after we first see him turn around and look at her, then she holds it out.
Had a look during my last watch but couldn't decide if it was a tombstone at the end. It could be, but would be a very rough/unmarked grave if it is.
Had a look during my last watch but couldn't decide if it was a tombstone at the end. It could be, but would be a very rough/unmarked grave if it is.
Casting/Characters
Haha, she does look very similar, and when Finn was trying to drag her around that camp on Jakku it very much reminded me of KK in PotC.
Phasma gets treated like a little bish in this. Does nothing of consequence except getting punked by Finn and forced lower the sheilds. Terrible use of what promised to be, and was marketed as a Bad Ass character (though the latter is not really JJ's fault/not the first time we've seen that happen)
Looks like a less crazy, more powerful Gollum. Have seen theories about Snoke being Plaguios, tbh I don't even remember the name so who knows, but it seems to be the popular opinion.
Overall
I think it's very good overall. Nearly got the balance of referencing the originals just right, but for me the pace was a bit fast. Would have liked a bit more exposition and time for the story to develop in the middle of the film, but it's not a major gripe for me having seen it again. 4 crossguard lightsabers out of 5 for me.
Toys
There's defo a bunch of stuff going on my birthday list!
Future
I think the next film will concentrate on Ren and Rey's training in opposing sides of The Force and (equivalent?) challenges they both have to overcome, whilst the Resistance/First Order rebuild and prepare for the next big battle. Don't see either of them being turned, and tbh I agree after the end of this one, don't reckon either will be much tempted.
Think Rey is more likely to be Luke's daughter than Han and Leia's, as I think it would be weird for them not to mention it after all the heartache over their son, but that would be against the Jedi code, so very well could be unrelated to any well known characters. Also think that whilst TFA was very actioned packed, pacey and followed a similar story arc to ANH, VIII will be slower, with more 'story' and difference to ESB.
Fwiw I think Ep VII-IX will stick quite closely to the feel/theme's of the original trilogy. Rogue One and the other stand alone films will give us the opportunity to see something that is more different, but still set in the Star Wars universe.
Think Rey is more likely to be Luke's daughter than Han and Leia's, as I think it would be weird for them not to mention it after all the heartache over their son, but that would be against the Jedi code, so very well could be unrelated to any well known characters. Also think that whilst TFA was very actioned packed, pacey and followed a similar story arc to ANH, VIII will be slower, with more 'story' and difference to ESB.
Fwiw I think Ep VII-IX will stick quite closely to the feel/theme's of the original trilogy. Rogue One and the other stand alone films will give us the opportunity to see something that is more different, but still set in the Star Wars universe.
Trailer
Think there were lots of bits of the trailer that were different, or not directly representative of the film, but could it have been Maz's? Don't remember it being orange tho - always thought it was Luke or Leia or someone like that...
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Missed 1 or 2 spoiler tags there? Just the Future maybe.
Philw
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Haha, think I've got them all now. It's tough when you're quoting and splitting so many posts!!
I like your style philSeen it 3 times now! Like it more each time I think
Referential
Personally I enjoyed most of the bits that referenced or were similar to the originals, although first time round I felt it did go a little too far with the similarities towards the end - the Starkiller base attack and plan. Would have liked it better maybe if they'd just disabled/destroyed the weapon and not the whole planet. Most of the references before that I enjoyed (like when Finn activates the chess table and picks up the 'training ball' on the Falcon), and thought that the early story arc echoed, but was different enough from A New Hope to be familiar but not repetitive. As Jalen Rose used to say on Grantland, "You've got to give the people what they want!"
Also, does a film have to be original to be considered great? Tarrantino's films are massively referential/unoriginal, but he is considered one of the great directors of our time. I'd certainly prefer a good unoriginal film over one that was original but average/poor.
Ending
Thought the ending was quite good, but Luke's expression was a bit weird, like he was trying to look sad or resigned, but couldn't get it quite right. Feel like he felt Han's death, and knew that Rey arriving with his 'sabre meant bad things had gone down. Agree with the shot being a bit long, maybe could have ended after we first see him turn around and look at her, then she holds it out.
Had a look during my last watch but couldn't decide if it was a tombstone at the end. It could be, but would be a very rough/unmarked grave if it is.
Casting/Characters
Haha, she does look very similar, and when Finn was trying to drag her around that camp on Jakku it very much reminded me of KK in PotC.
Phasma gets treated like a little bish in this. Does nothing of consequence except getting punked by Finn and forced lower the sheilds. Terrible use of what promised to be, and was marketed as a Bad Ass character (though the latter is not really JJ's fault/not the first time we've seen that happen)
Looks like a less crazy, more powerful Gollum. Have seen theories about Snoke being Plaguios, tbh I don't even remember the name so who knows, but it seems to be the popular opinion.
Overall
I think it's very good overall. Nearly got the balance of referencing the originals just right, but for me the pace was a bit fast. Would have liked a bit more exposition and time for the story to develop in the middle of the film, but it's not a major gripe for me having seen it again. 4 crossguard lightsabers out of 5 for me.
Toys
There's defo a bunch of stuff going on my birthday list!
Future
I think the next film will concentrate on Ren and Rey's training in opposing sides of The Force and (equivalent?) challenges they both have to overcome, whilst the Resistance/First Order rebuild and prepare for the next big battle. Don't see either of them being turned, and tbh I agree after the end of this one, don't reckon either will be much tempted.
Think Rey is more likely to be Luke's daughter than Han and Leia's, as I think it would be weird for them not to mention it after all the heartache over their son, but that would be against the Jedi code, so very well could be unrelated to any well known characters. Also think that whilst TFA was very actioned packed, pacey and followed a similar story arc to ANH, VIII will be slower, with more 'story' and difference to ESB.
Fwiw I think Ep VII-IX will stick quite closely to the feel/theme's of the original trilogy. Rogue One and the other stand alone films will give us the opportunity to see something that is more different, but still set in the Star Wars universe.
Trailer
Think there were lots of bits of the trailer that were different, or not directly representative of the film, but could it have been Maz's? Don't remember it being orange tho - always thought it was Luke or Leia or someone like that...
I thought it was okay.
If the next film features an even bigger deathstar being destroyed in exactly the same way as the other 3, I'm out. Would like a new story please.
Pat's Van
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same as Prev really, I'll give it 7/10
bluerobert
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Had an absolute nightmare. Me and my dad had planned to go and see it for nearly 8 months. He pulled out last minute and I had to go by myself. On my way into the cinema I dropped my phone and cracked the screen. Finally half an hour into the film I fell asleep and I woke up right at the end. Ah well, tomorrow's a new day
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bluerobert
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Cheers mate. My dads fine thanks for the concern. My phone is working enough for me to be on it right now it's just a new screen job ha.
I don't know how to mate, il just edit the post ha
Pat's Van
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when you post, you get all the little icons, like picture, smiley face and that
well next to the film clips icon, there's one called insert, and you insert a spoiler, and type your post within that x
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Wtf LOL
Perfectly timed 'Tis the Season'? Or too late for Xmas sales?
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