Stonehenge

[Tipp blue]

You know, @Tipp blue made a great point in another thread. Did you know these scientists get paid money for their research? Yeah, that's right. They get paid. These super-rich scientists would have us believe that dumping 35 billion metric tons of carbon into the atmosphere is bad for you. I feel sorry for the not-for-profit oil industry having to contend with science's financial clout, it's like Torquay versus Manchester City.

If your funding is reliant upon man made climate change, then you'll find proof of it to keep your funding... it's easy for you to say big oil paid for that research of course it's going to come to that conclusion and then dismiss it as snake oil science, how come you are so unwilling to say the same about government funded research? Governments are making stacks of money, there's now millions of jobs world wide depending on climate changes being man made, I guess these are legit scientists they'd have to be to get funded by government not like those charlatans who get their funding from big oil.

Former NOAA Scientist Confirms Colleagues Manipulated Climate Records

science.house.gov

A scientist manipulated climate data. Conservative media celebrated.

The journal Nature rebuked researcher Patrick Brown for claiming that prestigious publications only accept articles that exaggerate the effects of climate

www.eenews.net

Exposed: How world leaders were duped into investing billions over manipulated global warming data

science.house.gov

World leaders duped by manipulated global warming data

The Mail on Sunday today reveals evidence that the organisation that is the world’s leading source of climate data rushed to publish a landmark paper that exaggerated global warming.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Prevenger17]

If your funding is reliant upon man made climate change, then you'll find proof of it to keep your funding... it's easy for you to say big oil paid for that research of course it's going to come to that conclusion and then dismiss it as snake oil science, how come you are so unwilling to say the same about government funded research? Governments are making stacks of money, there's now millions of jobs world wide depending on climate changes being man made, I guess these are legit scientists they'd have to be to get funded by government not like those charlatans who get their funding from big oil.

Former NOAA Scientist Confirms Colleagues Manipulated Climate Records

science.house.gov

A scientist manipulated climate data. Conservative media celebrated.

The journal Nature rebuked researcher Patrick Brown for claiming that prestigious publications only accept articles that exaggerate the effects of climate

www.eenews.net

Exposed: How world leaders were duped into investing billions over manipulated global warming data

science.house.gov

World leaders duped by manipulated global warming data

The Mail on Sunday today reveals evidence that the organisation that is the world’s leading source of climate data rushed to publish a landmark paper that exaggerated global warming.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I'm agreeing with you mate. Clearly big science has paid off every climatologist and researcher in the world. But hopefully the Daily Mail and not-for-profit organisations like the oil industry can stop the spread of disinformation so we can continue to pump 35 billion metric tons of carbon into the air every year at no cost to the planet

 

[ArtetaMoney]

The reaction to this has been amazing.

 

[Lapeno77]

The reaction to this has been amazing.

And it will run a little while yet.

Until news of Dele's new contract breaks...

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

You do all realise Thanos was right.

I don't see a future based on current standards and modes of living, especially around consumption.

Which I am loathe to say. I love travel, for example, but ideally I'd not do very much at all. Like on flight every 15 years. Trip of a lifetime stuff.

Had to travel through London yesterday. How on earth do you make that city sustainable? You can't. Not with the current cultural, societal and economic logic and focus.

Back to mud huts folks, for the good of the planet.

JUST STOP.

A message no one wants to hear.

 

[Prevenger17]

Back to mud huts folks, for the good of the planet.

You'd think this would be music to the ears of a Tipperary native

 

[chrismpw]

And it will run a little while yet.

Until news of Dele's new contract breaks...

Are we extending his loan?

 

[Lapeno77]

Are we extending his loan?

So I hear but

 

[chrismpw]

You do all realise Thanos was right.

I don't see a future based on current standards and modes of living, especially around consumption.

Which I am loathe to say. I love travel, for example, but ideally I'd not do very much at all. Like on flight every 15 years. Trip of a lifetime stuff.

Had to travel through London yesterday. How on earth do you make that city sustainable? You can't. Not with the current cultural, societal and economic logic and focus.

Back to mud huts folks, for the good of the planet.

JUST STOP.

A message no one wants to hear.

The just stop needs more focus ....

Just stop overseas flights for holidays- 1 a year MAX is the start.
Just 5 flights for business a year max anything beyond massively taxed globally - we live in an age of video calls.
Just tax massive 4x4s off the road unless there is a professional need for them.
Just provide legislation so every item has a 10 year guaranteed life, move away from disposable unrepairable products.
Just make it illegal for football teams to use aircraft for internal matches.

 

[ArtetaMoney]

And it will run a little while yet.

Until news of Dele's new contract breaks...

I haven’t seen outrage like it, since that tree got cut down in Hexham.

 

[Tipp blue]

I'm agreeing with you mate. Clearly big science has paid off every climatologist and researcher in the world. But hopefully the Daily Mail and not-for-profit organisations like the oil industry can stop the spread of disinformation so we can continue to pump 35 billion metric tons of carbon into the air every year at no cost to the planet

Oh I'm so sorry I didn't realise, here I am thinking you were being sarcastic and passive aggressive.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

The just stop needs more focus ....

Just stop overseas flights for holidays- 1 a year MAX is the start.
Just 5 flights for business a year max anything beyond massively taxed globally - we live in an age of video calls.
Just tax massive 4x4s off the road unless there is a professional need for them.
Just provide legislation so every item has a 10 year guaranteed life, move away from disposable unrepairable products.
Just make it illegal for football teams to use aircraft for internal matches.

Just stop breeding. Especially little mouth breathers who will lap up a Farage or a Boris.

Just start mass sterilisation


Just get the infinity stones and get this shizz done. Koff Iron Man.

 

[chrismpw]

Just stop breeding. Especially little mouth breathers who will lap up a Farage or a Boris.

Just start mass sterilisation


Just get the infinity stones and get this shizz done. Koff Iron Man.

Last weekend I had to go to Cheltenham on a Saturday for a family event. I passed comment about doing the Thanos thing as I walked through the outskirts of the town centre. That's before I got to the trendy massively overpriced, and as ever - terrible quality, gimmicky venue that made me utterly pissed off for the rest of the day.

Oh and everyone there caught covid that day. Made for a cracking day out.

 

[BNJ1878]

Just stop breeding. Especially little mouth breathers who will lap up a Farage or a Boris.

100% this

Scrap the idiotic tax credits and replace it with actual taxation on kids. 1 kid, free, number 2 is taxed and each subsequent one is taxed on an exponential sliding scale.

You don't need 3/4/5+ running around, putting a strain in services.

 

[Moomin]

The just stop needs more focus ....

Just stop overseas flights for holidays- 1 a year MAX is the start.
Just 5 flights for business a year max anything beyond massively taxed globally - we live in an age of video calls.
Just tax massive 4x4s off the road unless there is a professional need for them.
Just provide legislation so every item has a 10 year guaranteed life, move away from disposable unrepairable products.
Just make it illegal for football teams to use aircraft for internal matches.

Restricting holidays will just make people more anti net zero unfortunately.

The industry though is investing and backing companies in the production of SAF. Will take time and effort but we will massively reduce CO2 emissions in this sector.

Think aviation produces about 2.5% of CO2 per year. Cement though, that is about 10% of the CO2 emissions we produce. Even if we provided renewable power to these plants you would still produce massive amounts of CO2 in the process.