Summer Transfer Window 2019

[SerenityNigh]

Kin ell. Thought he was meant to be decent?

Beginning to think we should lash our academy into a big skip.

I think we’ve stepped on from the kind of kids Moyes would bring through. Tony Hibbert, though I love him, had 250+ league appearances.

 

[Bungle]

WHAT?

Not exactly Mr Charisma is he?

 

[Kinky Koeman]

Is this where we are at?

A. Williams Released - £70k wages saved.
Jagielka - Released - £50k wages saved.
Vlasic - £14m - £30k wages saved.

£14m with £150k saved on wages.

 

[roydo]

Is this where we are at?

A. Williams Released - £70k wages saved.
Jagielka - Released - £50k wages saved.
Vlasic - £14m - £30k wages saved.

£14m with £150k saved on wages.

£20m on Gomes, £120k (?) wages.

 

[bluebud]

Is this where we are at?

A. Williams Released - £70k wages saved.
Jagielka - Released - £50k wages saved.
Vlasic - £14m - £30k wages saved.

£14m with £150k saved on wages.

+ possibly a loan fee for JJ Kenny and - about 10k p/w wages?

 

[Kinky Koeman]

£20m on Gomes, £120k (?) wages.

I didn’t want to jinx it haha.

It’s beginning to look a lot like the Summer Transfer Window.

 

[mikel_88]

Like to see dowell stay on loan at shef united then look at him after that could really bemefit from regular games

 

[PhilRegan]

He died of heartburn him mate

Sad really, Gav is gone

Haha He deffo had heartburn the way he played.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Are those caps all red and have the letters MAGA on them?

MUSMNTGA

 

[milks]

£20m on Gomes, £120k (?) wages.

+ Baines will have taken a cut for his new deal

 

[alvinh]

Is this where we are at?

A. Williams Released - £70k wages saved.
Jagielka - Released - £50k wages saved.
Vlasic - £14m - £30k wages saved.

£14m with £150k saved on wages.

Not that any of them aren't on silly money but still can barely believe Williams was on more than Jagielka!

 

[Saint Domingo]

Not that any of them aren't on silly money but still can barely believe Williams was on more than Jagielka!

Surely Jags was on higher than that. He was club captain.

 

[SerenityNigh]

Wham man

Championship level wham man at best

 

[Connor]

Championship level wham man at best

....Sounds like a kiddies game

 

[SerenityNigh]

The problem is the gap between world class and championship level at 16-18 is so small. With the exception of Rooney who was a cut above all players at 16, most of the others it was much closer. Gerrard got badly exposed when he was 18/19 on his debut against Ginola for example. It's hard and not everyone takes the next step up.

In some ways we have been unlucky, not many of our lads from age 17/18 have taken a Trent Alexander Arnold style jump over the next 2-3 years. I remember watching Arnold and Kane play for them against Walsh and Davies in an under 18's game, Everton won about 6 nil and in all honesty could have won by double that and still had plenty to spare. He looked a million miles behind that level. Maybe it's good fortune, or luck, or a change of position but I do wonder if there is something more structural that holds some of them back.

Either way the reality is we will increasingly be looking for the exceptional player. Moyes got some stick for doing it at the end of his career, basically unless you were exceptional he took no interest. However for all the right words that have been spoken and talk of progression from 18-23 we have not really brought through lots and were probably never going to.

I really like Carroll and Hunt in the 18's currently, but the jump gets bigger each time.

Was it Martinez who talked about the gap between academy and first team and the need for loans to get these players to grow? Seems like Euro loans will be the next step in the evolution of the academies.