Summer Transfer Window 2019

[Sweverton]

The ability of a creative midfielder absolutely hinges on their goals and assists.

Just as the ability of a striker generally hinges on how many goals they score.

But you would still have maddison over siggy?
Makes no sense at all

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Can we stop comparing ourselves to Leicester.

Wouldn't mind comparing ourselves with their 2016 team if we finish in the same position like

 

[Nyhus]

Are people honestly saying Leicester are better than us?

Trolls. Trolls all around.

This thread is getting tasty now that we’re closing in on August. Cant wait for the total chernobyl this place is going to become in mere days if no signings are completed.

 

[Deleted member 38674]

I bet Modric had completely average goal and assist stats throughout his entire career yet is the finest creative mid of his generation and a ballon dor winner.

We did the stats game once before, Klaassen had x goals x assists, Siggurdson the same, also Rooney would bring x amount, add them all up and we’d get a champions league number of goals and assists. Except they couldn’t pass a ball to each other and we were heading down instead.

Put a decent striker in that team, let Bernard get a whole season fully fit, he takes a few more set pieces, then his goals and assists would be higher if that’s what’s needed to convince some luddites that he’s better than Albrighton of all people.

Modric doesn't play where Bernard does. He doesn't (and didn't) tend to operate in the final third as Bernard does.

You're absolutely right, there is more to a players game than stats, but there is no justification for Bernard starting basically every game and having such a poor return.

Especially when you consider that Hazard, Salah, Sterling, Mane, Sane, Rashford, King, Zaha, Fraser, Deulofeu, Jota, Anderson, Martial, Mahrez, Lucas, Mkhitaryan, Townsend, Redmond, Antonio, Ritchie, Willian, Iwobi, Gudmundsson, Babel, McNeil, Knockaert, Sessegnon, Perreyra, Snodgrass, Schurrle, Lingard, Lamela, Gros and March all got better returns.

That's 34 players in comparable positions across the league last season who achieved better numbers. Now you may argue that Hazard, Salah, Sterling, Mane, Sane, Rashford, Martial, Mahrez, Lucas, Mkhitaryan, Willian, Iwobi, Lingard and Lamela play with better strikers and therefore should have better numbers. Let's accept that is a fair argument.....

So what is the excuse for King, Zaha, Fraser, Deulofeu, Jota, Anderson, Townsend, Redmond, Antonio, Ritchie, Gudmundsson, Babel, McNeil, Knockaert, Sessegnon, Perreyra, Snodgrass, Schurrle, Gros and March all having better returns? Many of whom only had a third of the playing time that Bernard got last season.

 

[chopper6]

I thought this was a transfer thread ffs

 

[BainesontoastNEW]

Free agent Brahimi has gone to Qatar. I know we've been linked to him several times.

 

[Noble Savage]

I thought this was a transfer thread ffs

I thought this was a transfer thread ffs

The fact that we aren't talking about transfers speaks volumes doesn't it ?

 

[Lelouch]

Modric doesn't play where Bernard does. He doesn't (and didn't) tend to operate in the final third as Bernard does.

You're absolutely right, there is more to a players game than stats, but there is no justification for Bernard starting basically every game and having such a poor return.

Especially when you consider that Hazard, Salah, Sterling, Mane, Sane, Rashford, King, Zaha, Fraser, Deulofeu, Jota, Anderson, Martial, Mahrez, Lucas, Mkhitaryan, Townsend, Redmond, Antonio, Ritchie, Willian, Iwobi, Gudmundsson, Babel, McNeil, Knockaert, Sessegnon, Perreyra, Snodgrass, Schurrle, Lingard, Lamela, Gros and March all got better returns.

That's 34 players in comparable positions across the league last season who achieved better numbers. Now you may argue that Hazard, Salah, Sterling, Mane, Sane, Rashford, Martial, Mahrez, Lucas, Mkhitaryan, Willian, Iwobi, Lingard and Lamela play with better strikers and therefore should have better numbers. Let's accept that is a fair argument.....

So what is the excuse for King, Zaha, Fraser, Deulofeu, Jota, Anderson, Townsend, Redmond, Antonio, Ritchie, Gudmundsson, Babel, McNeil, Knockaert, Sessegnon, Perreyra, Snodgrass, Schurrle, Gros and March all having better returns? Many of whom only had a third of the playing time that Bernard got last season.

It's his first season in the Premiership you crazy man, Some players take time to adjust.
Richarlison bagged 5 in 38 games then 13 in 35 us, Bernard could have easily had 5 goals but for some reason he's a nervous wreck or got really unlucky.
People who slander Bernard should wear a badge of shame honestly him and Digne rip teams to bits on the left.

 

[mightymoyes]

any actual transfer news here or all about how brilliant leicester are?
maybe move it to world football

 

[Michael81]

I'm just happy we're not talking about West Ham anymore. Who's up next after Leicester that we're going to be jealous of. I'm surprised Wolves haven't caused more hard on's tbh

 

[gaino92]

Modric doesn't play where Bernard does. He doesn't (and didn't) tend to operate in the final third as Bernard does.

You're absolutely right, there is more to a players game than stats, but there is no justification for Bernard starting basically every game and having such a poor return.

Especially when you consider that Hazard, Salah, Sterling, Mane, Sane, Rashford, King, Zaha, Fraser, Deulofeu, Jota, Anderson, Martial, Mahrez, Lucas, Mkhitaryan, Townsend, Redmond, Antonio, Ritchie, Willian, Iwobi, Gudmundsson, Babel, McNeil, Knockaert, Sessegnon, Perreyra, Snodgrass, Schurrle, Lingard, Lamela, Gros and March all got better returns.

That's 34 players in comparable positions across the league last season who achieved better numbers. Now you may argue that Hazard, Salah, Sterling, Mane, Sane, Rashford, Martial, Mahrez, Lucas, Mkhitaryan, Willian, Iwobi, Lingard and Lamela play with better strikers and therefore should have better numbers. Let's accept that is a fair argument.....

So what is the excuse for King, Zaha, Fraser, Deulofeu, Jota, Anderson, Townsend, Redmond, Antonio, Ritchie, Gudmundsson, Babel, McNeil, Knockaert, Sessegnon, Perreyra, Snodgrass, Schurrle, Gros and March all having better returns? Many of whom only had a third of the playing time that Bernard got last season.

You think Madison is better than Siggy even though he got less goals and assists this season, you opinion is now null and void. We appreciate the effort but its time for you to give up with this hypocrisy

 

[Lelouch]

I'm just happy we're not talking about West Ham anymore. Who's up next after Leicester that we're going to be jealous of. I'm surprised Wolves haven't caused more hard on's tbh

we had Wolves towards the end of last season, Might be Watford next.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I'm just happy we're not talking about West Ham anymore. Who's up next after Leicester that we're going to be jealous of. I'm surprised Wolves haven't caused more hard on's tbh

we had Wolves towards the end of last season, Might be Watford next.

The harsh reality is that those sorts of clubs are closer to our bracket than the top clubs are, so it's inevitable we'll get compared to them until we are finally able to break away from that mini-league of about 5 clubs who are all scrapping to be the next Top Six side

Leicester, Watford, Wolves and West Ham are decent sides who we do need to be wary off

We don't need to wet our kecks like, but we should be keeping an eye on them

 

[Deleted member 38674]

But you would still have maddison over siggy?
Makes no sense at all

Maddison averaged a G/A every 203 minutes. Sigurdsson averaged a G/A every 184 minutes.

Sigurdsson had a very solid season last year and is the better player right now, however he's 30 this year. Maddison, at 22, has a much higher value and, I'd wager, will go on to be the better overall player if he's knocking out those numbers at his age.

If you recall, the conversation I originally had was that Leicester wouldn't swap X for Y, so on that basis, no I don't think they would swap a 22 year old for a 30 year old based on only a slightly lower G/A average. That's all I've said, doesn't seem all that controversial to me.

Just as Dortmund wouldn't swap Sancho for Di Maria or Gareth Bale for example.

 

[Azza]

I thought this was a transfer thread ffs

It's the nappy wetting thread!