Summer transfer window 2023

[Toffeepot]

It’s a glass ceiling and you know it is. ‘Please can we have fifth place now please rather than ever being a serious club ever again’. They might have a few seasons in Europe, so what, wasn’t that long ago we were there under Martinez and again under Koeman and many times before that under Moyes.

What are they doing that Moyes didn’t manage? They’ve had one European qualification. Moyes did that without touting the club out across Europe as a training academy for the rich as well.

Just because Everton screwed up our first chance under Moshiri of breaking into the elite with billionaire investment doesn’t mean we should remodel ourselves as Brighton just so we can get some favourable media, a pleasing net spend, and a few 6th places.

Everton should be aiming to be the best club in the country, fans like you might laugh at it and revel in our current demise but we are not and never will be an intentional feeder club for top teams on an annual basis. That’s what Brighton are and every team in Europe knows it. Whichever star might perform for them in Europe next season is gone the window after, so is De Zerbi if he backs up last season. Every person connected to the club knows that and all their fans watching do as well.

I'd rather we were a feeder club than a stockpiler of cast offs that we can't get rid of when they fail

 

[Toffeepot]

I only come on here every fortnight...who did we buy?

might want to make that every month instead

 

[summerisle]

Little optimistic, lower I would say.

 

[sandybrownsbighead]

Little optimistic I would say.

So proud

 

[stretford blue]

Little optimistic I would say.

Thought it would have been lower to be honest

 

[stretford blue]

Milos Kerkez (19), up to €20M
Hamed Junior (23), €25M
Justin Kluivert (24), €11M
Romain Faivre (24), €15M
Marcos Senesi (25), €15M
Dango Ouattara (20), €22M
Ilya Zabarnyi (20), €23M
Marcus Tavernier (23), €12M
Some serious spending by Bournemouth recently

 

[Saint Domingo]

I'd rather we were a feeder club than a stockpiler of cast offs that we can't get rid of when they fail

We don’t have to be either. We can buy good players, keep them, grow a team, without selling them every single season.

 

[Saint Domingo]

Milos Kerkez (19), up to €20M
Hamed Junior (23), €25M
Justin Kluivert (24), €11M
Romain Faivre (24), €15M
Marcos Senesi (25), €15M
Dango Ouattara (20), €22M
Ilya Zabarnyi (20), €23M
Marcus Tavernier (23), €12M
Some serious spending by Bournemouth recently

When they don’t qualify for Europe within three seasons they’ll have a great time trying to cut their losses without getting relegated.

 

[ultra]

Little optimistic, lower I would say.

"Good times" in table form

 

[RomanReigns]

Milos Kerkez (19), up to €20M
Hamed Junior (23), €25M
Justin Kluivert (24), €11M
Romain Faivre (24), €15M
Marcos Senesi (25), €15M
Dango Ouattara (20), €22M
Ilya Zabarnyi (20), €23M
Marcus Tavernier (23), €12M
Some serious spending by Bournemouth recently

Did Bournemouth win the lottery?

 

[Toffeepot]

We don’t have to be either. We can buy good players, keep them, grow a team, without selling them every single season.

It's a long time since I've seen us do anything like that
A start for me would be not buying 'Prem proven' cast offs on high wages and expect it to be different for us
Stinks of Kenwright romanticism that
And now we can't even afford them so maybe that'll help spark a change
We need a complete change of approach and we've seen nothing yet to say that's happening

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

Little optimistic, lower I would say.

Spurs fans would have given exactly the same score if they’d just come 3rd and Kane had signed a 4 year extension. Can’t say I blame them. They’d love a bit of Mosh to cheer them right up.

 

[MikeH72]

that’s not what I’ve said though is it. I’ve said we operate an entirely different model than Brighton. They’re currently executing theirs extremely well but it won’t take them to the top it can’t. I don’t know what the strategy has been under Moshiri at Everton but that doesn’t mean we should follow the Brighton one just because it’s working for them. We are fundamentally different clubs in every aspect, there is no expectation for success at Brighton, if De Zerbi goes and they drop back into mid table or battling relegation their fans aren’t going to start protesting. Even if they got relegated they’d say they had a good time in the prem etc. The expectations at Everton are completely different regardless of Moshiri’s failure to live up to them.

The blueprint for success at Everton is basically the one Moyes almost carried out. We back a good manager to build a team and a culture that establishes us as a continuous qualifier for Europe. Moyes got a bit unlucky at key points with injuries, finances, and the timing of certain players coming through, but we were a lot closer to winning things in that period than most of the revolving door clubs have been since.

I don’t see how we do this with Brighton’s model and to be honest as soon as De Zerbi walks out the door at Brighton (which will be soon) I see it as far more likely they just fall back into the pack than establish themselves in the European elite.

You’re using an example from nearly 20 years ago with Moyes, football has moved on completely since then. Even then we only ever got marginally closer to winning a trophy than Brighton have now, they were in the FA Cup semis this year and are in Europe as we were under Moyes. So it’s a completely different model but with the same results. Most people accepted we’d hit the glass ceiling under Moyes as well, none of us were sat there thinking we could actually challenge at the top.

 

[maccavennie]

It's a long time since I've seen us do anything like that
A start for me would be not buying 'Prem proven' cast offs on high wages and expect it to be different for us
Stinks of Kenwright romanticism that
And now we can't even afford them so maybe that'll help spark a change
We need a complete change of approach and we've seen nothing yet to say that's happening

We need Moshiri and Kenwright to sod off and someone to actually start running us like a top flight club. Whilst those two massive bellends are at the helm we haven't got a chance in hell of having any kind of coherent plan.

 

[Mrk]

Milos Kerkez (19), up to €20M
Hamed Junior (23), €25M
Justin Kluivert (24), €11M
Romain Faivre (24), €15M
Marcos Senesi (25), €15M
Dango Ouattara (20), €22M
Ilya Zabarnyi (20), €23M
Marcus Tavernier (23), €12M
Some serious spending by Bournemouth recently

Young players who they can quite easily sell for a profit if they have a decent season and sell for what they paid if they go down. Smart.

Although to be fair we've signed a young player too. Shame it's his name and not his age though.