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Summer transfer window 2023

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Hendi said:
it's crazy. Its almost as if Kenshite is purposely spreading rumours just to p.ss us off. Such is the lunacy of continually going for relegated team players
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Leeds are dark horses mate, a bit like that Belgian team at each international tournament
 


If Onana went, I like that Lavia from Southampton, trouble is looks like clubs with better prospects appear to think the same. I guess it depends on if he wants to start or get bench time with others
 
Zaschrona said:
Think he could be a solid signing. As a Czech Toffee, I think we should take a look at Jurásek, Ladislav Krejčí and Václav Černý. These three could potentially be great signings. Souček or Coufal types of bargains.
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Krejčí is old and has a great future behind him, the others yes.
 
blueblue said:
Not the defining factor but in our present state we do need players that will gain in value .
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I think it’s a bit more nuanced than that to be honest mate. I know that’s a popular narrative but it’s actually more dynamic than that.

Essentially you have look buying any player as an investment. For younger players you are buying potential and betting. It’s high investment and guarded reward, for example I’ve pointed out signing Gomes and Gbamin both signed at 25 and 24. Combined fees of £50 million pounds, Gomes costs the club 12 million a season. Gbamin about 8.5 million in wages and Ammortisation - neither okayed a game for the club last season, we will be lucky to get a penny for either. Iwobi again signed as a young player costs us 11 mill a year so far he’s cost us £44 mill to this point - we will never recover that. Dele was 25 when he signed. Yerry Mina was 23 we signed him and over the cost of his contract he cost us £60 mill with not a penny in return.

Onana -Potential that he has costs us about 12 mill a season - has he been worth that…

The point is it’s a bit of a myth just signing young players, just leads to appreciation, it rarely does. It’s high investment with high risk.

The real question is the reason why? One big one is we are poor at developing young players we failed the likes of Lookman, Vlasic, Kean and Gordon. We didn’t give the the development their potential deserved and again wasted out outlay on each. We’re awful and wasteful at developing young players.

Then you look at someone like JT, 29 on a free costs the club 4.5 mill a year - hugely influential - absolute no brainer.

So in actual fact the often trotted out line of “we must sign young players, let them appreciate and sell them on” actually is just a bit of wishful thinking, in practice as illustrated above - it hasn’t worked economically and part of the reason we are in a financial mess. We are also probably the worst club in the league for developing young players or rather transition in young signings into success.

The idea of us signing young players of a certain age, to sell on, hasn’t worked in practice and signing older PL pros has proved infinitely better value - likely out of necessity but value none the less. In truth as above, it’s high risk, high risk, high reward strategy rather then the slam dunk in terms of appreciation most often convey it as.
 
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