Summer transfer window 2023

[davids]

Sidestepping nothing. I don't rate Dyche. You are turning it into who would have taken the job. Totally different things.

I answered you in the last post. See ya. Give that poster of Dyche a good old smooch goodnight eh.

Maybe get realistic about how the football world sees our club. Seems you still can't manage to come up with a realistic alternative who would have taken the job and kept us up when Lampard was sacked. Just one will do.

 

[evertony]

I saw loads of new pages in this thread and was excited that we might have some solid links to someone. But no. Loads of dark blue boxes and people talking about the value of stats so I'm assuming that Big Ig has decided to frot himself rotten about xQ, xR, xS or whatever and work himself into a lather about nobody telling him what a prescient genius he is?

It's hard enough being a bluenose at the moment without the contribution of some of our "characters".

His xB has shot up to be fair Windy.

 

[billyblue80]

Lyon have bid 25m for Pulisic if only we has twenty five million on hip I rate him

 

[blueboy72]

One who'd taken on a club without a striker in the relegation zone and kept them up?

Lampard

 

[Tipp blue]

Tony Cottee wasn’t a flop at all. Fellaini is another one we bought for big money who was a success. We rarely ever spent “big” under Moyes, but what little we did spend we mostly did very well out of it.

Worst Moyes signings that cost a significant amount were Kroldrup, Bilyaletdinov and Beattie.

Cottee for me was the signing that began the transformation from being great to being what we became in the 90s.. a slightly above average player but nowhere near what we should have been going for.

 

[MACCA75]

Moyes had way more than just 3 terrible signings. Here is the worst.. there's plenty of others he signed who never even kicked a ball for us.
Richard Wright
Rodrigo
Silva
Spencer
Davies
Koldrup
Jutkiewicz
Mustafi
Gueye
Junior

For goodness sake. 5 of those were youth players and Rodrigo got a bad injury about 2 games in. Moyes was excellent in the transfer market.

 

[windymiller]

Maybe get realistic about how the football world sees our club. Seems you still can't manage to come up with a realistic alternative who would have taken the job and kept us up when Lampard was sacked. Just one will do.

What would the point of that be? It's odd that you would rather have a discussion (although I suspect you want him to name an alternative just so you can say it's unrealistic or that they would be worse than Dyche) about some theoretical manager than discuss the one we actually have.

 

[andy4efc]

Gray has pace but is brain dead. Give me brains over pace every day of the week

Yeah bud Gray is predictable in anything he does. Absolutely clueless.

Just because Gray has pave but is clueless doesn’t mean we should be avoiding pace whatsoever! We’re just such a slow team in general

 

[HalfTimeSayers]

What is the type of manager we’d all ideally like though?

Half a dozen defeats and they’d be getting pulverised like every other manager before them.

Oh I’m with you. Ideally the young slick back haired foreign manager with a reputation for eying young talent, playing 22nd century tactics and pant soilingly beautiful football and developing existing players is what all clubs want.

We look to be heading into another season with Keane and Godfrey battling for a place at CB, a RB signing a new contract who every time he plays less that average we all say “it’s not his fault, we shouldn’t be relying him, should have been replaced 6 years ago”, Alex Iwobi being our most creative midfielder IF (which is not guaranteed) we can beg him to extend his contract, again relying on Dom’s trip to Germany having sorted out problems that even resting him for 4 extra weeks after he was fit didn’t solve, an aging CDM who almost every week is called out for being not the player he was when we sold him etc etc, a left back who looks like he gets younger and less experienced every game, a future Balon d’Or winning midfielder who will no doubt get season 2 out of his 9 year allowance to get used to the pace of the PL, an attacking midfielder who scored some of the most important goals in our history but is a constant 4/10 and usually looks on the verge of committing a professional foul on himself. Etc etc etc. All that is ignoring the boardroom nonsense, the ownership chaos, and the ongoing independent investigation into our finances.

But no, now is the perfect time to bin off (for another £7million) the manager that turned water into slightly more wine like water, but still pretty much water, and saved the financial viability of the club and go looking for another 12 year old Portuguese Bielsa wannabe that likes to play 2-1-1-4-1-1 formations.

 

[Lawrence]

I know its going back a bit, I just wonder if non league football still has some pearls to unearth. Heighway was one and to be fair a few more came down that route.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Maybe get realistic about how the football world sees our club. Seems you still can't manage to come up with a realistic alternative who would have taken the job and kept us up when Lampard was sacked. Just one will do.

Stop being a child. You came into this attacking me for disliking Dyche and thinking him a poor manager.

How many times do I need to say that whether or not he is a good manager is a totally different to who would have been available to take the job. As I said in my previous post, it wouldn't matter who I said to you because it can't be quantified, because it didn't happen. It is hypothetical. Whereas there is plenty on which to ground the fact that I don't believe Dyche to be a good manager. As I keep saying, you are entitled to your opinion but your aggressive defence of him is truly bizarre.

Regardless of your opinion of Dyche, you are acting like you are being incredibly clever but in fact are being stupid to the point of redundancy. You must be hell to be around if you are this petty over something so trivial on a football forum.

 

[MikeH72]

I know its going back a bit, I just wonder if non league football still has some pearls to unearth. Heighway was one and to be fair a few more came down that route.

Not for a Premier League team, no. The gap is astronomical.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

What would the point of that be? It's odd that you would rather have a discussion (although I suspect you want him to name an alternative just so you can say it's unrealistic or that they would be worse than Dyche) about some theoretical manager than discuss the one we actually have.

Have to say, if you follow the flow of the conversation, the lad is doing my head in to be honest. Have already said it would be a pointless conversation and he is coming back for more.

God, we need some signings to make this place less mad.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Oh I’m with you. Ideally the young slick back haired foreign manager with a reputation for eying young talent, playing 22nd century tactics and pant soilingly beautiful football and developing existing players is what all clubs want.

We look to be heading into another season with Keane and Godfrey battling for a place at CB, a RB signing a new contract who every time he plays less that average we all say “it’s not his fault, we shouldn’t be relying him, should have been replaced 6 years ago”, Alex Iwobi being our most creative midfielder IF (which is not guaranteed) we can beg him to extend his contract, again relying on Dom’s trip to Germany having sorted out problems that even resting him for 4 extra weeks after he was fit didn’t solve, an aging CDM who almost every week is called out for being not the player he was when we sold him etc etc, a left back who looks like he gets younger and less experienced every game, a future Balon d’Or winning midfielder who will no doubt get season 2 out of his 9 year allowance to get used to the pace of the PL, an attacking midfielder who scored some of the most important goals in our history but is a constant 4/10 and usually looks on the verge of committing a professional foul on himself. Etc etc etc. All that is ignoring the boardroom nonsense, the ownership chaos, and the ongoing independent investigation into our finances.

But no, now is the perfect time to bin off (for another £7million) the manager that turned water into slightly more wine like water, but still pretty much water, and saved the financial viability of the club and go looking for another 12 year old Portuguese Bielsa wannabe that likes to play 2-1-1-4-1-1 formations.

Again, that's such a mad reaction. Some weird dig about foreign managers, a predictable dig about people wanting beautiful football.

I don't think anyone who doesn’t rate Dyche is advocating sacking him. Not one. I think the point that many just feel he isn't a very good manager is lost on some people. I'm sure all the people who don't rate him are fully aware of how bad the squad is, God knows we've all had the torture of watching them for years.

The point is that in every way Everton make backwards thinking decsions: commercially, in recruitment and in selection of managers. And then people wonder why we've been left so far behind. Dyche will have a chance to prove how good he is this season. But he will have to develop a lot of the aspects of his coaching.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

On another note, those people who watch La Liga - is there anything happening with Gonzalo Plata at Valladolid? He was one of the few RW we were linked with in January and they got relegated didn't they? Thought we might revisit that one.