Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[Raino85]

To get to tenth we definetly need some solid additions. None of us know the financial situation or PSR so we shall see... of course it will be a mix but the squad actually needs several players however we bring them in.

We are 10 points off tenth.

That's a reverse of the Bournemouth 3-2 (+3 points)
Beating Southampton away (+3 points)
Beating Leicester away (+2 points)
Beating 10 man Brentford at home (+2 points)

That would of put us on the same points as mighty Bournemouth who are about to sell all there players to Real Madrid and a re a club we should look at replicating.

 

[Dymak]

I really agree that we should be trying to emulate Villa and Newcastle, and not trying to copy Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford’s ‘success’ before they are inevitably relegated within the next decade.

 

[Bkk Andy]

So what happens if the players we replace Branthwaite with aren't up to it?

We need to look at how Villa & Newcastle have gone about things, not Brighton & Bournemouth.

Newcastle don't want to sell Bruno or Isak & don't intend too

We'll see about Isak. Like all players, it's just about price.

 

[Neiler]

 

[billyblue80]

We are 10 points off tenth.

That's a reverse of the Bournemouth 3-2 (+3 points)
Beating Southampton away (+3 points)
Beating Leicester away (+2 points)
Beating 10 man Brentford at home (+2 points)

That would of put us on the same points as mighty Bournemouth who are about to sell all there players to Real Madrid and a re a club we should look at replicating.

Thats this season mate

 

[hallamblue]

So what happens if the players we replace Branthwaite with aren't up to it?

We need to look at how Villa & Newcastle have gone about things, not Brighton & Bournemouth.

Newcastle don't want to sell Bruno or Isak & don't intend too

Villa have a squad of about 24 first team players, most of whom are on high wages and quite a few are nearing the end of their careers. They are storing up psr trouble albeit they got a great fee for Dhuran which will help them. Newcastle are in a similar situation and will have to sell Gordon, Isaak or Guimares to balance the books.

I'm not advocating selling Branthwaite just saying if we don't qualify for Europe next season he'll want to leave and then we'll have to sell him because he'll be in the last 2 years of his contract and because his performance will drop if he's unhappy.

We have to be realistic about where we are now and try and move forward so we can get sustained success.

 

[billyblue80]

It depends on what you do with the money. In the situation we are currently in it may be necessary to play the long game. Branthwaite may stay for another year, but if we don't qualify for Europe he'll want to leave, which is fair enough, you only get one career. If that was the case and you could sell him for £100 million, and reinvest in 4 or 5 young players. Say 2 of them become outstanding, then you can sell them for £200 million and reinvest. By this time the team is starting to finish in and around the European places, and good young players want to come because you're building an exciting team, and because if they're excellent you won't stand in their way. You then manage to get into Europe and maybe win a trophy, and all of a sudden players don't want to leave, you can sell them later on, at 28 maybe, so you still get money into the club, and at the same time you're becoming a club that wins trophies again. That is possible with the new stadium, and inside 5 years we could become relevant again. But you can't expect Branthwaite to hang around for five years in the hope that happens.

I agree he will leave eventually but unless we get a offer of 70m+ this summer I wouldn't be selling him this year, he didn't have his best season and his valuation won't be at its height, I would try and get him on an improved contract and look at next summer. But everyone has a price. It depends on the PSR situation I guess if we can do some wheeling and dealing before the end of the 30th of June or not, do we need the funds for a rebuild. Problem is I can't see us getting more than 50-60m for him this summer and if we hold on we should get his true value...

 

[billyblue80]

McNeill, Beto or Garner would be the ones (pragmatically) if unwillingly the club could realise a value on selling - if the club decided to keep Branthwaite.

Would sell Mcneil or Beto if we get decent offers. Garner would keep he is a good player and we can execute his extension, he only has a year left this summer we would get around what we paid and would have to replace him. Re right wingers there are plenty in the championship and in smaller leagues with pace and who can weigh in with goals if you do your scouting right.

 

[blueboy72]

We've not had success in 30 years. Arguably harder now to win something than back then. We need a sustainable model. Dortmund model works. They have to punch against a behemoth that pillages them regularly. I'd rather be in and around it than what we've endured since 1995 with a very few exceptions. What model would you recommend out of interest ?

Dortmund are the 2nd biggest club in Germany and have fleeting success, I don’t follow German football,
But they don’t seem to be in the news for winning things lately. So arguably it doesn’t work. Yes they’re probably well off financially.
And I’m sure there fans are over the moon with that.

Yes we’re in different position and the premier league is a different ball game.
And for the next few years it may be a model we need to do.
But I will say it again, if you continue to
Sell your best players every summer, you will be seen as an easy touch and you will never have sustained success. What’s the end game here, to say in the prem with a shinny new stadium and make money,
Or try and win trophies???

 

[Billy Dean]

Villa have a squad of about 24 first team players, most of whom are on high wages and quite a few are nearing the end of their careers. They are storing up psr trouble albeit they got a great fee for Dhuran which will help them. Newcastle are in a similar situation and will have to sell Gordon, Isaak or Guimares to balance the books.

I'm not advocating selling Branthwaite just saying if we don't qualify for Europe next season he'll want to leave and then we'll have to sell him because he'll be in the last 2 years of his contract and because his performance will drop if he's unhappy.

We have to be realistic about where we are now and try and move forward so we can get sustained success.

It was posted recently that Villa's wage to turnover ratio is above 90%. But I think that was before this season's CL revenue has been accounted for. That will help them a bit you'd think

 

[BainesontoastNEW]

Doesn't look like we'll be losing our Virginia anytime soon!

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Again, doesn't sound positive. Hope it doesn't impact the summer window too badly.

 

[UltraVires]

I think it’s all too easy to say we need to adopt the Brighton or Bournemouth approach because whether it’s bad to say it out loud or not, we are infinitely bigger than they can ever be.

As for Villa and Newcastle, I don’t think we can compare ourselves to them either because we have different circumstances financially, commercially and regulation wise also.

We just need people inside the club who take a measured approach and don’t constantly think that one signing will make or break us no matter how much they cost in wages.

It’s been a gradual decline in standards and quality at the club since Moyes left the first time and sadly I think we need to accept as fans that the right approach is a gradual approach to get us to where we want to be albeit this can be accelerated with the new stadium and a few smart decisions.

 

[Marius57]

We are 10 points off tenth.

That's a reverse of the Bournemouth 3-2 (+3 points)
Beating Southampton away (+3 points)
Beating Leicester away (+2 points)
Beating 10 man Brentford at home (+2 points)

That would have put us on the same points as mighty Bournemouth who are about to sell all there players to Real Madrid and a re a club we should look at replicating.

We were 1 point off 10th last season and then the manager spent all summer talking about relegation scraps and spent the first half of the season setting the team up for a relegation scrap.

There was no reason we couldn’t have been in that 8-12th grouping when you think about the results you just posted above.

 

[lungo]

Seems to have only played for Metz u19s?

Metz is hiding him! The vultures are circling. Believe me he will play in a big team very very soon. When you see him you wont believe that he is only 16. On a podcast the journalists of L'Equipe are sure that he is already good enough to play in the French second division (Metz is a second division club but had , in the last 20 years, an impressive list of African star players). They have a football school in Senegal (Génération Foot).