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Well, I enjoyed reading your post mate and I must say - unlike a certain someone on this thread, you've made good points with solid foundation for your argument. Thank you. Now, I'll try and respond. Just before I do that, there's a lot than Everton & Sunderland fans have in common in terms of massively underachieving and have little to show in terms of trophies, for our efforts. Before @orly jumps in to shout "We're in the Premiership and you're heading towards oblivion in league 1 how can you compare" my comparasion is simply underachieving. There's no doubt, you've consistently proven yourself as a solid premiership club whilst we have been a yo-yo club, you have established yourself in the Premiership for many years, whilst we never have since Peter Reid in 99/2000. You've also pushed for top 6 finishes, we haven't. You've spent god knows how many years in the top flight, inflicting some heavy defeats on us in the process. I have genuine respect for your team and Everton as a whole, are a classy club - Just like at what you did for poor Bradley.

Anyway, back to and my claim that we are 'world class'. In terms of support. Admittedly, I'm probably biased, however, I stand by my comment. Consistently, over the years, we have turned up in our thousands home & away. When we had our brief spell under Peter Reid, when we finished in the top 6, we were getting 40 odd thousand every home game. Our club has so much potential, we have a excellent fan base, good stadium, and excellent youth/training facilities. Yet, for all that, we've had virtually nothing to show for it. We went down with 19 points, which was (at the time) the lowest points total, a few years later in 2005/2006 we broke our own record by finishing with 15 points. (Luckily, Derby now have that unwanted record when they only got 12 I think from memory). All we need is a 'good' season in the Premiership and we would get 40,000 every home game, only 6/7 clubs would get higher.

We've also had to endure a dismal derby record v Newcastle (up until recently when we got 6 in a row) and watch them finish higher than us, sometimes in a higher division. They have mocked us and ridiculed us as being "in their shadow". I'd argue, we're probably one of the 'least rewarded' clubs in the world for a club of our size and structure.

You'e right, recently, our attendances have fallen to new lows, but like you say, only 2 or 3 clubs get more than us, despite the fact We're rooted at the bottom of the league.

We're so passionate about football here, it literally makes-or-breaks our weekend. If only, a manager could take us to new heights (it wouldn't take much I know) there's no limit to what we could achieve.

Our geographical location puts us at a massive disadvantage. Let's be honest, no world class footballer wants to play in Sunderland, often considered a **** hole! For example, a few years ago we were after Peter Crouch but his WAG did not want to live in Sunderland - That was the end of that deal.

I know I haven't totally justified my 'world class' comment but I genuinely don't think many clubs would still get the numbers we get, after years of misery we've suffered. I feel we're a sleeping giant. Now, we're at a all-time low, we've never been further away from my 'dream' of seeing Sunderland compete in the top 10 of the Premiership and it breaks my heart.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43346488
Sunderland will close the Stadium of Light's upper concourse to home fans from next season, to save on staffing costs and 'improve match atmosphere'.

The decision was prompted by a drop in attendances to an average of 27,692 per game in a 49,000-seat stadium.

About 1,500 season ticket holders are affected, and have been sent a letter offering different seats at the same price for the next three seasons.

Away supporters will remain in the upper tier of the stadium.

Corporate hospitality and the directors box will also continue to be seated in that part of the ground.

The letter says: "The decision has now been taken to close the Premier Concourse at the end of this season to both season card holders and match sales, unless demand dictates that additional capacity is required.

"We believe that closing the Premier Concourse will help us to improve match atmosphere, whilst also reducing the costs associated with safety stewards and kiosk staff in the area."

Although attendances are down, Sunderland's average is the fourth best in the Championship - but their form this season means the club could be in League One next season.

If relegated, it would be the first time in 30 years the club had dropped as low as the third tier.

Several clubs have opted to shut sections of the ground in the past, including Cardiff City and Leeds United.

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@Safc-mark-91 talk to us Frandel :(:(:(:(

Hi mate, sorry - I've been in a foul mood since Tuesday. That Villa game hit me hard. I finished work at 7pm, paid £25 to get a taxi at 7.20 to match, got in my seat and we're 1-0 down! Then, we concede again just before HT which killed us off. Second half, little bit better, we created chances but looked very weak defensively, Villa sensed blood, then got their third goal. Such is our pathetic mentality, at 3-0 down we entered 'damage limitation' mode, happy for Villa to have the ball and keep the scoreline respectful. We didn't even push for a consolation goal, our heads dropped and we just went through the motions. I only stayed till the end so I could unleash my anger of "Booooooo" towards the team.

Our confidence is at rock-bottom level. Our full-backs are terrified of getting up the pitch for fear of a counter-attack, which results in the entire back line dropping deeper, inviting pressure on us. Our players are scared to take players on, for fear of losing the ball and getting stick from the crowd.

I don't even know what to say anymore, I'm just absolutely devastated to see my club fall apart.

We'll recover, just have to accept this is one of the worst spells in the club's history - What more can I say?

This really hurts.
 
Hi mate, sorry - I've been in a foul mood since Tuesday. That Villa game hit me hard. I finished work at 7pm, paid £25 to get a taxi at 7.20 to match, got in my seat and we're 1-0 down! Then, we concede again just before HT which killed us off. Second half, little bit better, we created chances but looked very weak defensively, Villa sensed blood, then got their third goal. Such is our pathetic mentality, at 3-0 down we entered 'damage limitation' mode, happy for Villa to have the ball and keep the scoreline respectful. We didn't even push for a consolation goal, our heads dropped and we just went through the motions. I only stayed till the end so I could unleash my anger of "Booooooo" towards the team.

Our confidence is at rock-bottom level. Our full-backs are terrified of getting up the pitch for fear of a counter-attack, which results in the entire back line dropping deeper, inviting pressure on us. Our players are scared to take players on, for fear of losing the ball and getting stick from the crowd.

I don't even know what to say anymore, I'm just absolutely devastated to see my club fall apart.

We'll recover, just have to accept this is one of the worst spells in the club's history - What more can I say?

This really hurts.
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Today even worse buddy but AGAIN the results went Sunderland's way.

Who is Barnsley's game in hand??
 
My word Sunderland’s goalkeeper and the terrible positional awareness



Jesus wept you wouldn’t wanna turn up and play knowing you have a turd like that in the sticks!
 
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State of the place.
 

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Today even worse buddy but AGAIN the results went Sunderland's way.

Who is Barnsley's game in hand??

Norwich at home, playing tonight mate. To be fair, I'd expect Norwich to win but at this point, it all seems hypothetical anyway. If we can't win, it doesn't matter what other teams do, we're never going to pull ourselves out of this mess.

It's been coming, we've been extremely lucky to have results going for us for so long, I think you yourself have pointed this out a few times, in any other season we'd be cut adrift by 8/9 points by now. It's a miracle we're still in touching distance - we've not won since January.

Absolutely pathetic display on Saturday v a struggling QPR team. I'm really struggling to find any positives from the game at all.
 
Norwich at home, playing tonight mate. To be fair, I'd expect Norwich to win but at this point, it all seems hypothetical anyway. If we can't win, it doesn't matter what other teams do, we're never going to pull ourselves out of this mess.

It's been coming, we've been extremely lucky to have results going for us for so long, I think you yourself have pointed this out a few times, in any other season we'd be cut adrift by 8/9 points by now. It's a miracle we're still in touching distance - we've not won since January.

Absolutely pathetic display on Saturday v a struggling QPR team. I'm really struggling to find any positives from the game at all.

Hmm, I think Norwich will win. Got one of the better away records in the division,and Barnsley's home record is shocking. However both in horrible form.

Just looking that up, Sunderland have only won 2 league games at home this season wtf.

IF Barnsley win tonight then yes, it's all over. But if they don't, you're getting a mad amount of chances as results continue to go your way (although Bolton going 6 clear of the Birmingham makes it tougher, as you've now probably only got 21st to aim at).

Performance against QPR was abysmal. That goalkeeping error was Sunday league. So pointless.
 

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