Sunderland v Everton. Monday 22nd November @ 20.00.

[GhostOfDixie]

I must admit, with each passing week I'm finding it more and more difficult to blindly follow Moyes.

This is bang on mate. He is tactically inept. We have salvaged a point when we should have taken all 3. His subs did nothing to change the game.

 

[Bundy]

Two points from relegation again, woo hoo.

 

[Evertonlover]

I am not sure who but there are a few candidates to have their contracts cancelled and take the money and offer Pienaar another 7-10k a week to keep him with becuase without him I tell you tonight we'd have been in trouble! A point away from home fair enough but it could have been more ... should have been more becuase on paper we're miles ahead of these guys!

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Just typical us and the continuing themes really piss me off.

We play nice football but can't score.
Saha starts before Yakubu in a 4-5-1.
We start well but then go a bit meh.
The other team scores and we start to finally have a bit of ambition.
We go 4-3-3 with ten minutes left to try and salvage something.

I'm bored of saying could have been worse, it should have been much better.

A point is only 1 more than a defeat. 3 points is 2 more than a draw. I don't think Moyes went with anything other than not losing attitude.

 

[TX Bill]

Just typical us and the continuing themes really piss me off.

We play nice football but can't score.
Saha starts before Yakubu in a 4-5-1.
We start well but then go a bit meh.
The other team scores and we start to finally have a bit of ambition.
We go 4-3-3 with ten minutes left to try and salvage something.

I'm bored of saying could have been worse, it should have been much better.

...should have added after "...and salvage something, and usually do."

I'd rather stop salvaging draws and start harvesting wins.

COME ON MOYES !!! It isn't rocket science.

 

[bluebloodinmyveins]

This is bang on mate. He is tactically inept. We have salvaged a point when we should have taken all 3. His subs did nothing to change the game.

I think only Damon doesn't question Moyes these days. Not unless Chico or LCAB does it first at least.

 

[kenada_blue]

Mate, he was clean through on goal, he has to hit the target. If the keeper saves it then that's something, but he's blazed it high over the bar.

Stop defending the players regardless. They are paid an awful lot of money to do a job. Clean through, you have to hit the target. It's that simple. Beckford will say himself that he has to hit the target.

Sorry if it disappoints you mate, but sometimes it's not about defending the players. We are allowed to be critical you know.

Im not a fan of Beckford...but when Moyes talks about dropping Beckford in at the deep end when he shouldnt, he's still doing it.

He's now saying "we're in the [Poor language removed], pull something out your arse" rather than "you're starting, show me what you can do".

If we're 2-1 up...Yak is coming on, not Beckford. Beckford is only being used to try and bag a last minute goal. That's pressure.

 

[ijjysmith]

I'd like Yak and Becks up front next match i think. Won't happen of course and if it did we'd lose and id just end up confused.

 

[Rook]

Absolute [Poor language removed].

Clueless tactics and subs. A striker who did nothing for 80minutes. A midfield that was bossed and not changed.

Cahill, Pienaar, Baines, Jags and Distin - turned up.

Everyone else - I'd drop the lot (maybe not Coleman).

As for Moyes....lost for words to be honest. He seriously cant read a game and make changes.

That's my opinion.

Distin was decent but I didn't see anything from jags that suggested he had a good game. Welbeck tortured him. Speaking of which, we needed a striker and our manager is supposedly on good terms with Sir Alex, so why didn't show any interest in him?

 

[icburns]

We excel at not losing. Say what you want, but we drew a powerful and in form Sunderland side on their own pitch. Sunderland have beaten City and Chelsea already, and haven't lost to any of last year's top 10.

2-2 is fair result for me.

 

[TX Bill]

I am not sure who but there are a few candidates to have their contracts cancelled and take the money and offer Pienaar another 7-10k a week to keep him with becuase without him I tell you tonight we'd have been in trouble! A point away from home fair enough but it could have been more ... should have been more becuase on paper we're miles ahead of these guys!

I think you make a good point.

A very good point.

And for all the TW pricks who think Pienaar is "just another Everton player," they can ____ right off.

 

[kenada_blue]

I am not sure who but there are a few candidates to have their contracts cancelled and take the money and offer Pienaar another 7-10k a week to keep him with becuase without him I tell you tonight we'd have been in trouble! A point away from home fair enough but it could have been more ... should have been more becuase on paper we're miles ahead of these guys!

He's doing the right thing in looking for a Champs League club. He's never gonna get it with us.

 

[bluebloodinmyveins]

I think you make a good point.

A very good point.

And for all the TW pricks who think Pienaar is "just another Everton player," they can ____ right off.

If only Saha and Heitinga had the commitment Pienaar does.

 

[kenada_blue]

Distin was decent but I didn't see anything from jags that suggested he had a good game. Welbeck tortured him. Speaking of which, we needed a striker and our manager is supposedly on good terms with Sir Alex, so why didn't show any interest in him?

They did well to keep Bent and Welbeck quite for the most part...it was Henderson, Zenden, and Malbronque who bossed the midfield to feed them that was the killer.

 

[Seamus Colemole]

Mate, he was clean through on goal, he has to hit the target. If the keeper saves it then that's something, but he's blazed it high over the bar.

Stop defending the players regardless. They are paid an awful lot of money to do a job. Clean through, you have to hit the target. It's that simple. Beckford will say himself that he has to hit the target.

Sorry if it disappoints you mate, but sometimes it's not about defending the players. We are allowed to be critical you know.

You'd think it was that easy from how you describe it.

2 defenders baring down on him and his job is to do what? Score thats what. Put it past the keeper and into the net.

Now if he doesn't do that it matters not whther he blasts it into row z or the keeper saves it, if he fails to score he fails to score.

Now he could just aim it straight at the keeper and say "oh well at least i got it on target".

But no, he tries to beat the keeper but gets his foot under it and puts it over in an attempt to score.

Doesn't matter how much he gets paid, even the best strikers in the world put chanes over the bar.

Why? Because its not that easy. Sure its better to say it was saved rather than you missed but he had to try and score, not to get it on target.