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SuperLeague - guess who's back
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aazak
Player Valuation: £20m
“It is the clubs that bear the entrepreneurial risk in football.
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But when it comes to important decisions, they are too often forced to stand idly by from the sidelines as the sporting and financial foundations run under their hands."
Hard to imagine what that must feel like
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But when it comes to important decisions, they are too often forced to stand idly by from the sidelines as the sporting and financial foundations run under their hands."
Hard to imagine what that must feel like
Gwladysstreetlad
Player Valuation: £50m
I'm desperate for the super league to really happen. The scab six going their own way and a total fincial collapse is the only way well ever see football returning to something like what it used to be. It would be a rough few years for the rest of us, no doubt about it, but the new league would be stronger, fairer and better for it. With loyal fans still going the match to watch their teams for a far more reasonable price
Meanwhile after a few years of love-ins the "super league" would totally collapse. The novelty of seeing Man Utd Vs Real Madrid and Barcelona Vs the RS would soon wear off for even the glory hunting day trippers once its no longer an event and the thought of paying £80 to £100 for a single game of footie stops sounding like fun. They won't even be able to brag and glot at their friends/work colleges anymore because nobody would care what fans of scab clubs in a different league have to say.
The "super league" would 100% collapse in a decade or less once the bubble bursts.
Meanwhile after a few years of love-ins the "super league" would totally collapse. The novelty of seeing Man Utd Vs Real Madrid and Barcelona Vs the RS would soon wear off for even the glory hunting day trippers once its no longer an event and the thought of paying £80 to £100 for a single game of footie stops sounding like fun. They won't even be able to brag and glot at their friends/work colleges anymore because nobody would care what fans of scab clubs in a different league have to say.
The "super league" would 100% collapse in a decade or less once the bubble bursts.
"European football is on the brink of collapsing" lollollollollol
Football as a financial model should work perfectly the way it is. But for the greed and corruption across the European "super clubs" - there would be no issue... it's clubs who have managed their finances responsibly who will be penalised.
Rita_Poon
Player Valuation: £90m
There'll be some squeaky arses for sure, what with newcastle's sudden wealth, the sky six has expanded some, who dips out? that Spurs stadium aint paid for but does have a pull whether its nfl or whatever, Arsenal are currently top, chelsea have just splashed 400M to safeguard talent, and Manchester U are in their first final for 4 years (or is it 6?) - yes there's someone left out in the cold with the rest of us, looking at a near full squad overhaul, a dejected manager, and a fan base already unhappy with owners and the base cost of the game. No way the euro clubs accept 7 english sides.
Could get really messy quite quickly this.
Could get really messy quite quickly this.
barneygumble
Player Valuation: £60m
They’ll succeed.
The motion that no one is “guaranteed”, is all welll and good, but when are the “Big” sides never going to constitute as outside of a so called “top 80” and it’s broad enough that some teams will accept it.
Gradually, over time, they’ll get their big super league… ironically, it’ll work identically to how the CL worked, initially allowing “lesser” sides before gradually removing them for the sides who will make them the most money.
trueblue84
Player Valuation: £50m
It's not going away. With every additional american owner, this gets closer to reality.
Funny that they talk about it being based on what a club generates, but totally ignores that most of the clubs in that list have only recently become successful (and that's ignoring the fact that real Madrid are pretty much owned and funded by the Spanish royal family).
Funny that they talk about it being based on what a club generates, but totally ignores that most of the clubs in that list have only recently become successful (and that's ignoring the fact that real Madrid are pretty much owned and funded by the Spanish royal family).
NilSatisOptimum
Player Valuation: £70m
Wonder if City see a way out of EPL FFP...
Drico
Player Valuation: £60m
Basically, a power grab by the clubs to take control from UEFA. Now, a properly-run UEFA might garner huge support in this existential battle. And, to be fair, UEFA are not FIFA. But they haven't really done enough for the little guy to garner unquestioned support here.
This is, essentially, the Premier League breakaway all over again. Instead of worrying about 92 clubs, that breakaway allowed the FA to usurp the Football League and consolidate all wealth in 22 clubs, now 20. In the case of this Super League, instead of spreading the wealth across thousands of clubs, it can be crystallised in 80 - with, no doubt, huge differentials in how that is divvied up among the elite. You can bet Florentino Perez does not see, say, Sporting Lisbon, Feyenoord, or Anderlecht gaining a share anywhere comparable to Real Madrid's.
So, this is no solution. What we need is a system that does not consolidate all wealth in the Premier League. That won't change with this. If anything, it simply compensates the super clubs on the continent for the unbalanced TV rights deals that are earned in England and rips away power from regulators. It won't help Steaua Bucharest - who probably won't make the 80, anyway - or even those who do who aren't in the elite 12 or 16.
The solution would be some kind of transparent - and fair - financial fair play rules that reflect the reality that a globalised game with EU freedom of movement means the market alone cannot provide equality of opportunity. In accepting that, we need a system that transfers significant wealth to countries whose cubs cannot compete in the interests of safeguarding the game. Basically, EU structural funds for football. Structural funds from the EU have essentially built up small or poorer countries so they can now compete in the European single market and grow their markets to the benefit of all. Ireland may not be Germany, but it is economically and socially "competitive". Poland has been transformed by EU funds. But Florentino is hardly in favour of ensuring that Romania continues to produce players like Hagi or Bulgaria gives us more Stoichkovs...
This is, essentially, the Premier League breakaway all over again. Instead of worrying about 92 clubs, that breakaway allowed the FA to usurp the Football League and consolidate all wealth in 22 clubs, now 20. In the case of this Super League, instead of spreading the wealth across thousands of clubs, it can be crystallised in 80 - with, no doubt, huge differentials in how that is divvied up among the elite. You can bet Florentino Perez does not see, say, Sporting Lisbon, Feyenoord, or Anderlecht gaining a share anywhere comparable to Real Madrid's.
So, this is no solution. What we need is a system that does not consolidate all wealth in the Premier League. That won't change with this. If anything, it simply compensates the super clubs on the continent for the unbalanced TV rights deals that are earned in England and rips away power from regulators. It won't help Steaua Bucharest - who probably won't make the 80, anyway - or even those who do who aren't in the elite 12 or 16.
The solution would be some kind of transparent - and fair - financial fair play rules that reflect the reality that a globalised game with EU freedom of movement means the market alone cannot provide equality of opportunity. In accepting that, we need a system that transfers significant wealth to countries whose cubs cannot compete in the interests of safeguarding the game. Basically, EU structural funds for football. Structural funds from the EU have essentially built up small or poorer countries so they can now compete in the European single market and grow their markets to the benefit of all. Ireland may not be Germany, but it is economically and socially "competitive". Poland has been transformed by EU funds. But Florentino is hardly in favour of ensuring that Romania continues to produce players like Hagi or Bulgaria gives us more Stoichkovs...
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