Takeover bid by Peter Kenyon

[MikeH72]

To be fair I don’t think Moshiri ever told any of our manager what to do or play a certain tactic.

He was just influenced by the wrong people/agent and signed wrong players/manager.

Walsh, Koeman, Silva, Brands and Benitez did most of the collateral damage.

Every single one was appointed by Moshiri.

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

Think with Moshiri it was never about him wanting us to succeed as it was him wanting to succeed to stick it to his beloved Arsenal.

 

[Axlswhk]

Every single one was appointed by Moshiri.

Fair enough.
But all of them achieve considerable success with their previous clubs. We’re jinx.

 

[Papa Shango]

Either youre unaware or just ignoring the American side of it where they're good friends with a lot of the trump administrations far right side including Steve bannon.

Would they call our best players mum a voodoo practitioner though? I think that's the important question.

Probably would to be fair.

 

[Papa Shango]

Fair enough.
But all of them achieve considerable success with their previous clubs. We’re jinx.

Some did some didn't.

Koeman has always been a pretty average manager, Benitez was good aeons ago and needs money to succeed and we only had 1.7m or whatever to spend and was doomed from the beginning due to him being a kopite rat, Silva got sacked by Watford (doesn't everybody?).

The signs were always there if he bothered to look hard enough.

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

Would they call our best players mum a voodoo practitioner though? I think that's the important question.

Probably would to be fair.

I still can't believe Moshiri got off as lightly as he did with that comment.

 

[Zatara]

Were talking about Thornton right, ex GS senior figure?

Clearly hes loaded and the fact hes so connected politcally and donated $12.5mil points to Esk being correct about him being a billionaire.

But i dont know where he's amassed that wealth from being an employee / Director and Board member unless he did extremely well from stock options.

I'd have guessed he'd be worth circa $100-200mil or a bit more from his actual 'work'.

Esk suggesting hes worth over $10billion seems strange to me. Unless hes aware of options / investments.

Just to add to this...

The play for the Americans would be to buy the club from Moshiri.

Restructure the business from top to bottom + open the stadium.

Then bring in the Chinese.

Wheres the $3mil come from youre referring to?

My post was guessing $100-200mil from 'work' alone.

Not including investment holdings.

He'll be loaded...but i dont see how Esk would be right that hes worth more than Usmanov.

If hes worth say $100-200mil from work...and lets say a huge amount from stock options then thats surely not going to be anywhere near Usmamov.

Maybe close to Moshiri but id be surprised.






These Yanks are so well connected its ridiculous.

If they are planning to use Everton as a Flagship commercial project to act as a marketing element to all their 'boring' business activities then we'd probably have the worlds best owners.

Seriously speaking these guys look (on paper) like they are the real deal business and connection wise.

If they were anything but American Id be excited.

So did a little bit of digging on Thornton.....First of all, keep in mind that he can probably get whatever money he wants, whenever. I dont think you can have been a decades long higher up and eventual co-president of the 2nd largest investment bank in the world and not be both well connected, and able to drop a line to a few people and get things funded. He probably is one of the more easily funded people in the world due to his experience, and connections. This is both in the USA, and in China.

Personal wealth? Way more than what a google search says. Apparently he does a good job hiding it, but obviously hes worth waaay more than they say, as in 2012 alone he was paid 18 million in salary.

1. From 2012 to recent times he was paid approximately 95 million to run Barrick Gold. This is straight from their filings.
2. In 2017 they published he had 5,215,000 shares. In 2018 it announced he almost doubled his shares, paying $30 million to now hold around 10,300,000 shares.
3. He sold 2.7 million shares in something like 2019, and seems he sold another 3.5-4 million in 2020, maybe when the price was around its peak. Its anyones guess as to how much he made on the shares but assuming he sold them all prior to 2022 he probably netted a total of $250 million or so from Barrick shares.
4. When he left Goldman Sachs in 2003, the NY Times said he had made $40 million in compensation
5. Also at that time, the NY Times said he had $207 million worth of shares in Goldman Sachs. If he sold it at some time in the past year or two, then he could have made about $950 million from the sale.
6. He made money over the years, including the 2003 to 2012 period sitting on the boards of 7-8 big corporations. For example, he makes $340k a year to sit on fords board.

All of that put together, assuming he used some of his Barrick Gold compensation to buy shares, thus reducing that amount, means if he made no extra money in any other investments, you could reasonably assume a net worth in the range of $1.3 Billion. While he has made over $140-150 million in either compensation or money for sitting on boards in his lifetime, the bulk of that all comes from his shares in Goldman Sachs and in Barrick Gold.

TLDR: Thornton likely has a little over $1 Billion depending on when he sold/will sell some of his stock and if he has any other investments.

I think @PeregrineT is pretty close to my guess.

$100-200mil from "work"

Investment holdings I didnt believe were 'close' to Moshiri.

$1-1.3billion would be possible while I believe Moshiri has double that amount.

 

[Papa Shango]

I still can't believe Moshiri got off as lightly as he did with that comment.

I think it was because it was so bizarre and the offensiveness was masked by the weirdness of it all.

 

[BNJ1878]

Attend private dinners together, handle negotiations for Donny, Bannon referred to Thornton as his mentor. They're pals alright.

If they're pals he needs to send Banon to a good tailor.

His jacket sleeve in that pic with farage makes him look like a trainee magician.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Based on his disappearing act at Goodison/and these reports - it's now clear Moshiri wants out.

You don't want a owner in place for long who is working on an exit strategy.

 

[MikeH72]

Fair enough.
But all of them achieve considerable success with their previous clubs. We’re jinx.

They didn’t? Walsh was never a DOF, Koeman failed in every job apart from Southampton, Benitez hadn’t done anything since 2013, Silva had just been sacked, Brands was the only one with any sort of record of success and that was in a bum league. They were all terrible clueless appointments.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Oh and for those looking/seeking/preaching for morality in football. God bless you, you deluded fools.

 

[davids]

To be fair I don’t think Moshiri ever told any of our manager what to do or play a certain tactic.

He was just influenced by the wrong people/agent and signed wrong players/manager.

Walsh, Koeman, Silva, Brands and Benitez did most of the collateral damage.

Benitez was the last straw,you could see some strange logic in the others, as they had at least done credible jobs at previous clubs,but the waiter from China was bizzare and showed no regard for the fans.

 

[mmmmsnouts]

Anyone with the money to afford a Premier League club is going to be super scummy. Beggars can’t be choosers.

 

[bluejohn66]

How do they get round Bill's Trainset Clause?