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The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )
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I did say that political alignment "is not solely determined by social and foreign policy", so thanks for agreeing with me initially. Economically, they have policies on both sides of the scale. i.e. no tax on the minimum wage is quite left, cutting foreign aid is right (even though both the amount of foreign aid, aid whom we're paying it to, are ridiculous).
You can't be serious mateI don't understand how shrinking the size of the State so that it can fit in a bathtub is in any way centrist.
You've lapped up the "more Tory than the Tories" catchphrase and made your statement without actually providing any evidence. Understandable, it's catchy.
Stopped reading there. Knowing numerous women who have been in that position and "just left", it is certainly a viable solution and almost always the best one. Regardless, to liken the understanding of poverty to issues of domestic violence is a terrible analogy and proves the rest of the article to be unworthy of reading.
There are quite a few traits consistent with sociopathy, and indeed several studies have suggested that those in positions of power tend to have them more than average, but I don't think empathy (or lack of) has been shown to be indicative of the condition.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201305/how-spot-sociopath
It's a shame when these kind of labels are thrown about without any kind of research or evidence to back them up. I'm not sure it's at all right to string victims of sexual violence in with those in poverty either. Sadly I hear quite a few stories of such things via my other half. Hard to believe how men can be such arseholes at times (I hope that isn't displaying sociopathic tendencies on my behalf?).
There was a feature this week in the Economist about social mobility. Might make interesting reading.
http://www.economist.com/news/leade...pital-grows-privilege-has-become-increasingly
This was a leader, there was a more detailed version in the print edition.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201305/how-spot-sociopath
It's a shame when these kind of labels are thrown about without any kind of research or evidence to back them up. I'm not sure it's at all right to string victims of sexual violence in with those in poverty either. Sadly I hear quite a few stories of such things via my other half. Hard to believe how men can be such arseholes at times (I hope that isn't displaying sociopathic tendencies on my behalf?).
There was a feature this week in the Economist about social mobility. Might make interesting reading.
http://www.economist.com/news/leade...pital-grows-privilege-has-become-increasingly
This was a leader, there was a more detailed version in the print edition.
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Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
Clint Planet
Utter Cad.
In Poland right now but will try to reply in full when I get time.
Sure you've got better things to do mate. Enjoy your holiday. I'm sure these debates will still happen when you get back
Say hello to Mrs Planet for me and have a Becherovka for the night 
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Seanjd
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UKIP know that BNP are political dynamite, they have been wiped off the face of the political universe. By publicly denying BNP members to join, you are painting a public picture that you are not the same as them, which is what they want, although many of their policies broadly fall in line with each other. How many BNP member would they attract anyway? There are hardly any to begin with.
Absolutely not. In my eyes, they make the Tories look moderate compared to themselves, which, in my view, can only help the Tories. @red1 said that UKIP wanted to shrink the state, and you replied that he had fallen into the trap of believing that they were 'more Tory than the Tories.
Firstly, I invite you to have a look at a Stuart Wheeler's quote, of UKIP;
UKIP's Stuart Wheeler: "Our policies, except for a few, are very, very similar to the Conservatives" #newsnight
Also, straight from the UKIP policy page of their website;
– UKIP will abolish the Department of Energy and Climate Change and scrap green subsidies.
– UKIP will abolish the Department for Culture Media and Sport.
– UKIP will reduce Barnett Formula spending and give devolved parliaments and assemblies further tax powers to compensate.
– UKIP will introduce an option for students to take an Apprenticeship Qualification instead of four non-core GCSEs which can be continued at A-Level. Students can take up apprenticeships in jobs with certified professionals qualified to grade the progress of the student.
– UKIP supports the principle of Free Schools that are open to the whole community and uphold British values.
– Existing schools will be allowed to apply to become grammar schools and select according to ability and aptitude. Selection ages will be flexible and determined by the school in consultation with the local authority.
– UKIP will abolish green taxes and charges in order to reduce fuel bills.
– UKIP supports a simplified, streamlined welfare system and a benefit cap.
– We will review the BBC Licence Fee with a view to its reduction. Prosecution of non-payments of the Licence Fee would be taken out of the criminal sphere and made a civil offence.
If you can pose a counter argument as to how any of the above policies are not, as @red1 said, shrinking the state, I would be very interested to hear them.
Finally, while looking through the UKIP policies, I found this;
– Businesses should be able to discriminate in favour of young British workers.
All I know is the the Oxford English Dictionary defines discrimination as this:
make an unjust or prejudicial distinction in the treatment of different categories of people, especially on the grounds of race, sex, or age.
"existing employment policies discriminate against women"
synonyms: be biased, show prejudice, be prejudiced;
treat differently, treat as inferior, treat unfairly, put at a disadvantage,disfavour, be intolerant towards;
victimize
Ouch, UKIP.
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Seanjd
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And I would strongly suggest reading past the byline of an article before making assumptions as to what its about. @Clint Planet actually links this article to make a point which has virtually nothing to do with domestic violence, although it is more prevalent in poverty-stricken homes.
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