The EU deal

[daylightrobber]

And why on earth would you want to do that?

Given that Le Pen is gaining ground rapidly in France, Geert Wilders is doing likewise in the Netherlands, Trump is the GOP nominee in the States, we have a far-right government in Poland and were within a whisker of having one in Austria, I would frankly be ashamed as anything if I did something that promoted their way of thinking. Absolutely and utterly ashamed. Putin is sat there rubbing is hands together thinking of how he can capitalise on the mess us knocking our domino down will cause.

I visited Dachau on the way back through Germany yesterday. Have we really learnt so little from the past? Was all that blood shed so we can then wash our hands of trying to help create a safer and more respectful world? Por shame.

Maximum rep. Walls for keeping people out. Walls for keeping them in. Not a lot of difference really.

 

[peteblue]

Presidents of Commission, Council and Parliament. May be others, but these are the major ones.

So there's 3, I think I read that there were 5. Why do we need so many 'Presidents', is it part of making them seem important, or a way to justify their large salaries and motor cavalcades........when politicians or bureaucrats get fancy titles they just love all of the other little bangles and perks.....which is why they are only ever in it for themselves....it's time for our politicians to be a little more humble and focussed on serving the people......I see Brexit as a way of resetting this growth of the political class........

 

[Joey66]

That's none discriminatory reciprocal agreements for you. My Mrs is currently doing an English degree, in France, distance learning. If she'd have done it here it would've cost £9000/yr. Doing it in France she pays 400 euros/yr. Another one of the benefits of being in the EU.

Not much benefit for my wallet it's another case from you of "I'm alright Jack"

 

[daylightrobber]

So there's 3, I think I read that there were 5. Why do we need so many 'Presidents', is it part of making them seem important, or a way to justify their large salaries and motor cavalcades........when politicians or bureaucrats get fancy titles they just love all of the other little bangles and perks.....which is why they are only ever in it for themselves....it's time for our politicians to be a little more humble and focussed on serving the people......I see Brexit as a way of resetting this growth of the political class........

We have Presidents of all sorts of organisations from student unions to the W.I. It's simply a title given to the person who heads up that organisation ffs

 

[Joey66]

So there's 3, I think I read that there were 5. Why do we need so many 'Presidents', is it part of making them seem important, or a way to justify their large salaries and motor cavalcades........when politicians or bureaucrats get fancy titles they just love all of the other little bangles and perks.....which is why they are only ever in it for themselves....it's time for our politicians to be a little more humble and focussed on serving the people......I see Brexit as a way of resetting this growth of the political class........

why do they need two parliaments??? 100million£ maintenance alone???

 

[Cypher]

Oh dear.

Well they do.

 

[Joey66]

I believe that Scotland charge standard fees for Eng/Wales students as Eng/Wales Unis charge the same fees for all UK students. Scottish and EU students get subsidised (not free) fees in Scottish Unis by Scottish Govt (not the EU).

No subsidy for any uk citizens or outside the EU absolutely propostorous!

 

[daylightrobber]

Not much benefit for my wallet it's another case from you of "I'm alright Jack"

Of course. That's why I want to pull up the drawbridge.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Maximum rep. Walls for keeping people out. Walls for keeping them in. Not a lot of difference really.

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't suggest that all 'outers' are thinking in prejudicial terms, but given the circumstances across Europe at the moment, I'm almost certain that a vote by Britain to leave the EU will be exploited by just the kind of shady populists that do very much want to blame the woes of their constituents on external parties. Even if your intentions are far nobler than that, I would seriously question if they are the kind of friends we want to be keeping.

 

[daylightrobber]

No subsidy for any uk citizens or outside the EU absolutely propostorous!

I think you'll find that it's a national level government decision.

 

[Cypher]

And why on earth would you want to do that?

Given that Le Pen is gaining ground rapidly in France, Geert Wilders is doing likewise in the Netherlands, Trump is the GOP nominee in the States, we have a far-right government in Poland and were within a whisker of having one in Austria, I would frankly be ashamed as anything if I did something that promoted their way of thinking. Absolutely and utterly ashamed. Putin is sat there rubbing is hands together thinking of how he can capitalise on the mess us knocking our domino down will cause.

I visited Dachau on the way back through Germany yesterday. Have we really learnt so little from the past? Was all that blood shed so we can then wash our hands of trying to help create a safer and more respectful world? Por shame.

You make that remark about Putin yet note he's the only leader his people are actually happy with.

That blood was shed so Britain wouldn't become part of a super state run by Germany. You really shouldn't be bringing the war into the discussion.

 

[Cypher]

So there's 3, I think I read that there were 5. Why do we need so many 'Presidents', is it part of making them seem important, or a way to justify their large salaries and motor cavalcades........when politicians or bureaucrats get fancy titles they just love all of the other little bangles and perks.....which is why they are only ever in it for themselves....it's time for our politicians to be a little more humble and focussed on serving the people......I see Brexit as a way of resetting this growth of the political class........

It's so the people don't have a clue what they are actually responsible for. No accountability for the political class is the aim of the EU.

 

[SNova]

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Not sure how much we can trust them after the general election. But here's hoping.

Also, BUILD THE WALL! Keep Scot cucks out. Make Britain great again.

 

[Joey66]

I think you'll find that it's a national level government decision.

Or just pure victimisation for a UK subject, fantastic this EU we pay the membership its run like the Tufty club!
The single EU market is biased against us!

 

[Cypher]

Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't suggest that all 'outers' are thinking in prejudicial terms, but given the circumstances across Europe at the moment, I'm almost certain that a vote by Britain to leave the EU will be exploited by just the kind of shady populists that do very much want to blame the woes of their constituents on external parties. Even if your intentions are far nobler than that, I would seriously question if they are the kind of friends we want to be keeping.

Prejudice is perceived notions not based on evidence of any reasoned thinking. I think we have given plenty of reasons to back up our arguments and offered evidence to support them.