The Everton Board Thread 2014/15

[blulouie]

what even is the point you're trying to make? you brought those clubs up and to compare our transfer activity to theirs is staggering quite frankly

The ONLY point that I have made is every club sells their star players....you seam to want some justification for making comparisons.
Again Every club sells players...if you want to use it for all the ills of our club,and gives you a chance to bleat about the board...carry on fella.ffs.

 

[Eggs]

LAD.

....I'm just saying, Sagey.

 

[Toffeelover]

It's not true that though is it?

It'd be hard to ignore a club that won 18 league titles and 5 ECs. But that's not the whole story. Their achievements tower over ours, yes. But living in the shadows - no. How can a club with the 4th greatest amount of success in English football be in the shadow of a club that's 2nd most successful? You're not comparing Liverpool with some I Zingari League outfit here. This is an institution of national and international renown. What you (and originally the Toffeeweb blogger) are doing is selling us short. You're doing that because you let the Kopites who call you bitter and half wit semi-literate hacks at the Echo dictate the terms of the debate.

And over and above the football it IS true to say that Liverpool are also known for non-football reasons. That's just a plain fact of the matter.

Put your shoulders back, puff your chest out and be proud of who we are. They are a circus act; we are one of the treasured institutions of the football world.

Well said Dave, thank you.

 

[joey_macmo]

The ONLY point that I have made is every club sells their star players....you seam to want some justification for making comparisons.
Again Every club sells players...if you want to use it for all the ills of our club,and gives you a chance to bleat about the board...carry on fella.ffs.

you brought up the clubs not me, every club sells players yes but its why we sold players like Rooney that is the problem.

for example If the kings dock came up now and we had to come up with £100m id have no problem selling Lukaku, Barkley & Stones because the club would be stronger long term.

 

[Aar_the_Toffees]

This always annoys me, how is there possibly none better? He loves Everton that much that in 15 years he has invested sod all and sold any star we have had (Jeffers, Rooney, Ball, Barmby, Lescott, Arteta, Fellaini).

He has sat there for 15 years and just taken the Sky Sports money. If he loved us that much he would have sold us for a reasonable price. You're telling me we're the only club that couldn't get bought? He is a fraud, the day he and the rest of the money grabbing board leave, is the day Everton will start to see some real progress.

Should have said i meant sarcasm, but yeah agree with everything you said. There's probably a bunch of investors that we've never been told of, and some of them might have been Oil people.

 

[roydo]

for example If the kings dock came up now and we had to come up with £100m id have no problem selling Lukaku, Barkley & Stones because the club would be stronger long term.

That is an interesting discussion that.

Sell 3 key players, including the main striker, replace none of them, then hope the R word doesnt happen while it takes maybe 2 seasons to build an ace ground.

Wowzer. Red or Black that one.

 

[joey_macmo]

That is an interesting discussion that.

Sell 3 key players, including the main striker, replace none of them, then hope the R word doesnt happen while it takes maybe 2 seasons to build an ace ground.

Wowzer. Red or Black that one.

no where near as extreme as that, you'd have years to plan for it. it was purely of an example of a long term direction. The club seems to be aimless at times relying on sky and the council to survive.

I even wouldnt have a problem with a long term buy to sell strategy.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

how many times does it needed to be pointed out that this is wrong, check page 79 of the last accounts

The set of accounts I've got only go to page 47, you'll have to be more specific as I've no idea what you're on about
Edit: I now see what you're aiming at, the emolument payment, which almost certainly relates to expense claims, Elstones bonus, or costs relating to Richard Kenyon. Whichever, it's not what you're suggesting.

 

[joey_macmo]

The set of accounts I've got only go to page 47, you'll have to be more specific as I've no idea what you're on about
Edit: I now see what you're aiming at, the emolument payment, which almost certainly relates to expense claims, Elstones bonus, or costs relating to Richard Kenyon. Whichever, it's not what you're suggesting.

nteresting when emoluments were £0 in the last accounts which seems to rule out expenses & bonuses

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

nteresting when emoluments were £0 in the last accounts which seems to rule out expenses & bonuses

I doubt there'd have been a CEO bonus for an operating profit of 700k, it's not unrealistic to think that a £28m profit generated one. In any case your intimation is bollocks, as there's been nothing in that column in more years than not.

 

[Carlito]

I'd love an explanation for why Earl was handpicked to buy up a significant number of shares, given that Kenwright has often spoke about the need for an outside investor who is willing to make a serious contribution.

 

[joey_macmo]

I doubt there'd have been a CEO bonus for an operating profit of 700k, it's not unrealistic to think that a £28m profit generated one. In any case your intimation is bollocks, as there's been nothing in that column in more years than not.

err thats what ive just said, it certainly rules out expenses. Cant be bothered looking further back than 2010 but this figure has been £0 every one of those years until now.

Fair do's if they are bonuses, its just interesting to me that it appears to have always been zero

 

[mrobo77]

Does anyone know how much we actually owe the only thing I can find is this on taken from the Everton website
The financial results have led to the Club’s net debt position as at 31 May reducing from £45.3m in 2013 to £28.1m in 2014.

Surely with all the TV money next season we will look more attractive to a buyer especially if we are reducing the debt each year so we don't have the excuse as we don't look good on paper as debt isn't as high we have players like lukaku, stones, Barkley, Coleman easily worth over a 100 mil plus the rest of the squad, we potentially might have a new ground (if it's not season ticket renewal propaganda) so where do we go from here are we still actively looking for a buyer or an investor

 

[USABlue]

this whole thread is pointless until we get a new stadium and the fact that BK wants "investment" but still wants to be chairman. If anyone put significant money into the club they'd want to be in charge

 

[Nobby Nobbs]

It's not true that though is it?

It'd be hard to ignore a club that won 18 league titles and 5 ECs. But that's not the whole story. Their achievements tower over ours, yes. But living in the shadows - no. How can a club with the 4th greatest amount of success in English football be in the shadow of a club that's 2nd most successful? You're not comparing Liverpool with some I Zingari League outfit here. This is an institution of national and international renown. What you (and originally the Toffeeweb blogger) are doing is selling us short. You're doing that because you let the Kopites who call you bitter and half wit semi-literate hacks at the Echo dictate the terms of the debate.

And over and above the football it IS true to say that Liverpool are also known for non-football reasons. That's just a plain fact of the matter.

Put your shoulders back, puff your chest out and be proud of who we are. They are a circus act; we are one of the treasured institutions of the football world.

Sorry I'm late replying mate grandson has me run off my feet, take your last point first, I couldn't more proud to be an Evertonian wouldn't have it any other way. The first part of your post is to some extent true but it's not just the 18 titles, 5ECs, 5 league cup and uefa cups, the fact remains that over the years the focus of the football media is on the top four teams and with the exception of one year and a couple of distant 5th places we have been nowhere near. Outside of England we are hardly known and this is all to do with CL exposure which we have none I hate saying this the beast that is football now leaves no room for teams that can't challenge the top four. Sorry if this is a bit rambling I'm in a rush to get out.