The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Whoever's fault it was we ****ed it up a treat that summer. That was our chance to really establish ourselves, & we failed to capitalise on it, after performing a minor miracle actually finishing in the pound seats.

I was always under the impression that we were waiting for the Sky money & the second installment of the Rooney cash to arrive in August, before we could splash out? & Kenwright had no means of obtaining short term funding to cover it.

 

[Neiler]

What i would do is blame *_________________, and be so steadfast in my opinion i refuse to listen to anyone elses, to the extent of telling fibbs, rewriting history and pretending im an expert on corpaorate governence, law, market forces, finance, stadium design, tax, investment, merchandising etc.



*Insert Random name - as per your very right opinion, while telling yourself you know the truth and commending yourself on your preseptive skills of being able to see THE TRUTH in comparrison to others.

 

[Allezfan]

Fairly sure we spend money every year on players that the club can ill afford. Of late.. Mirrallas, Jelavic, Pienaar etc.
Fairly sure that would continue with more income as well.

In the last five years we've made 15 million more on player sales then we've spent on players bought.

Of course we've spent nearly 15 million on agent fees in that time period, too. But given that the wagebill has only risen at the same level as our income, it's five years since we've spent money on players that we haven't generated through sales.

 

[Goat]

In the last five years we've made 15 million more on player sales then we've spent on players bought.

Of course we've spent nearly 15 million on agent fees in that time period, too. But given that the wagebill has only risen at the same level as our income, it's five years since we've spent money on players that we haven't generated through sales.

In 11 Years we have spent 5.6m Net.

5.6m

Thats roughly 0.5m a Season.

Giggle.

 

[Allezfan]

In 11 Years we have spent 5.6m Net.

5.6m

Thats roughly 0.5m a Season.

Giggle.

Not really fair to treat all eleven seasons as the same, though.

We were spending about 2 million a season for the first six years and then not even all our sales money for the last 5.

 

[Goat]

Not really fair to treat all eleven seasons as the same, though.

We were spending about 2 million a season for the first six years and then not even all our sales money for the last 5.

Yes true.

I think prior to around 2009 we had a Season Net spend of 4.5m.

The Lescott deal was the first time we didnt fully spend all the money from an outgoing, then it just went to total sh1t.

You may recall Moist and SunTanBob having a little spat at each other around that time.

 

[davek]

What i would do is blame *_________________, and be so steadfast in my opinion i refuse to listen to anyone elses, to the extent of telling fibbs, rewriting history and pretending im an expert on corpaorate governence, law, market forces, finance, stadium design, tax, investment, merchandising etc.



*Insert Random name - as per your very right opinion, while telling yourself you know the truth and commending yourself on your preseptive skills of being able to see THE TRUTH in comparrison to others.

That sort of relativism wont do though, mate. We have a club run on a shoestring, indebted and with very little assets left, and playing its games in a rundown stadium - and all that's been achieved on the watch of the chairman and directors of this football club.

It's not a case of 'no one's right' here and 'a pox on both houses'. There's just those who state and restate the blindingly obvious conclusion that this board are poison for Everton, and those, on the other hand, who draw the wrong conclusion and continue to give them full or partial support.

 

[davek]

Yes true.

I think prior to around 2009 we had a Season Net spend of 4.5m.

The Lescott deal was the first time we didnt fully spend all the money from an outgoing, then it just went to total sh1t.

You may recall Moist and SunTanBob having a little spat at each other around that time.

They thought they could fund a small bit of spending because it'd become someone else's problem when they got their new stadium in place and sold up on the back of it. Since then, they know no local organisation, public or private, will touch them with a shitty stick over a stadium plan, so they culled the squad and now Moyes will have to sell to spend.

Everton 2.0 - the Sequel.

 

[Goat]

They thought they could fund a small bit of spending because it'd become someone else's problem when they got their new stadium in place and sold up on the back of it. Since then, they know no local organisation, public or private, will touch them with a shitty stick over a stadium plan, so they culled the squad and now Moyes will have to sell to spend.

Everton 2.0 - the Sequel.

Sell to spend wasnt ideal, I could cope with that.

Its the Sell to spend, then maybe see half the money, if we are lucky, thats the major problem.

 

[nigelcoyb]

They thought they could fund a small bit of spending because it'd become someone else's problem when they got their new stadium in place and sold up on the back of it. Since then, they know no local organisation, public or private, will touch them with a shitty stick over a stadium plan, so they culled the squad and now Moyes will have to sell to spend.


Everton 2.0 - the Sequel.

Another cracker Dave anyone who can't see this is the top and bottom of the Kenwright/Green/Earl combo is a candidate for the "Nigerian email" scam.

Questions of why no investment by these carpet baggers can be traced right back to this shoddy little get rich quick scheme.

Unbelievable some know the score yet defend them.

 

[Ihaters]

In the last five years we've made 15 million more on player sales then we've spent on players bought.

Of course we've spent nearly 15 million on agent fees in that time period, too. But given that the wagebill has only risen at the same level as our income, it's five years since we've spent money on players that we haven't generated through sales.

Yeah but our wages are too high, that they are going up in line with our income.. simply means that they are staying too high as our income goes up.
If our wages were less, then the difference between our spend and turnover would improve..
Problem is our position would likely suffer so the board and the manager have walked a fine line between selling too many and plummeting down the table, or selling too few and not finishing high enough to cover it.
So far its worked as much as it can but I refuse to believe that when we are in as much debt as we are and still buying players that Moyes has not been backed as much as is possible by the board... in terms of what the club can afford...
This is not to be mistaken for me not accepting the following:

The board could and should of put some coin into the club
The board should of improved our income
The board should be doing more and need to go
Not selling the first team is not in anyway excusing the board and is in no way me saying they have done enough...

I stand by it though, if they spent any more we would be bankrupt as a business.. any less Moyes would be really struggling.. I think they have backed him as much as the club can... in light of how badly the club is run anyway.

Throw in the CL money and I am convinced most would go back to Moyes, the rest will help to carry on the status quo.

 

[davek]

Another cracker Dave anyone who can't see this is the top and bottom of the Kenwright/Green/Earl combo is a candidate for the "Nigerian email" scam.

Questions of why no investment by these carpet baggers can be traced right back to this shoddy little get rich quick scheme.

Unbelievable some know the score yet defend them.

They work for the club, I'm convinced of it.

 

[Ihaters]

They work for the club, I'm convinced of it.

That's because your paranoia against the board clearly knows no limits.
I would go so far as to genuinely believe that Kenwright has not employed undercover thread assasins to get at you when you type bad things against him on a forum.
Just my opinion though. The guy clearly does have issues so I suppose it is possible.

 

[Bluenose1995]

what winds me up about the board is that they are so inept at the marketing side of football, we have one of the strongest sides in the best league in the world and should we get even europa league football this year we could and should be getting bigger and better sponsership deals in, look at sunderland and villa in terms of attendances and fanbase we are on around the same level yet our playing staff and history should mean we should be having atleast their sort of sponsership deals or more yet we arnt its frustrating

 

[Ihaters]

what winds me up about the board is that they are so inept at the marketing side of football, we have one of the strongest sides in the best league in the world and should we get even europa league football this year we could and should be getting bigger and better sponsership deals in, look at sunderland and villa in terms of attendances and fanbase we are on around the same level yet our playing staff and history should mean we are on atleast their sort of sponserships or even more yet we arnt its frustrating

Agreed, wouldn't suprise me if there were some championship teams getting as much merchandising or sponsership revenue as us.