The Everton Board Thread (Inc. Bill Kenwright / Blue Union)

[PeterMeter]

Fan ownership; 40,000 shares at 3,000 £ each / 100,000 shares at 1,200 £ each.

Good stuff!

 

[toffeeben15]

Wouldn't it be easier to get taken over but leave kenwright as chairman where we atleast no there is some stability

 

[Christiffa25]

If you take the money out of it and some of the major decision making which tbf is made based on lack of money...kenwright is a great frontman. I'd actually be happy to have new rich owners and Kenwright remaining. My major beef is the other idiots on the board who all are very rich individual's but won't invest a penny.

Just a question... When Kenwright and co took over EFC how was it done?? By that I mean usually part of buying a club usually means clearing any debt. Did he/they do that and run up the 46M current debt or did they takeover with a debt which they couldn't/wouldn't clear with there own funds and its just grown?

 

[Tubey]

If you take the money out of it and some of the major decision making which tbf is made based on lack of money...kenwright is a great frontman. I'd actually be happy to have new rich owners and Kenwright remaining. My major beef is the other idiots on the board who all are very rich individual's but won't invest a penny.

Just a question... When Kenwright and co took over EFC how was it done?? By that I mean usually part of buying a club usually means clearing any debt. Did he/they do that and run up the 46M current debt or did they takeover with a debt which they couldn't/wouldn't clear with there own funds and its just grown?

Give an example of something he's done right that brings you to that conclusion. As I can't name anything other than producing TV soundbytes and seemingly lying through his teeth consistently.

He's messed up everything he's went near, money or not. Shirt deals, staff recruitment, simple development plans... literally everything.

From what I remember, he didn't clear any debt whatsoever - he bought Johnsons shares only through a holding company called True Blue Holdings. He's invested pretty much nothing since; neither has any board member. They're all waiting for the big pay day.

 

[Christiffa25]

I just mean his strings are pulled by the others. As said from a money point of view, sponsorships, ground moves ect ect EFC have failed... Is that all bill's fault? I wouldn't say so... Bill himself hasn't invested any of his own money because he doesn't have any!

I don't wanna sound like I'm defending his running of the club as I'm not... Well I am a little... He did bring moyes and he has a great manager chairman relationship and has brought stability on that side of things. Everyone speaks very well of Everton and bill inside the football community.

With other owners and people in charge of the things bill and co have failed with I'm just saying as a face of the club, pr looking after the manager/club relationship and dealing with other clubs he could excell in that side

Does he deserve it given how he's run the club?? That's a different question

 

[Ratkiller]

Thats two points in a very big article mate, frankly I don't believe either if I'm honest.

Ill always maintain that KD, DK were massive opportunities lost, it amuses me when people talk of happy clappers - I remember the glee after DK got shot down, I said at the time to the lack of foresight masses that all the decision did was lower the glass ceiling on the club and consign us to another decade of financial constraint! Which up to today has proven to be right - yet the same clappers are full of being "staggered" at a drop in turnover etc - it amuses me that people don't see the obvious correlation.

Please continue to support an agency that employed legal representation that cost the club circa 10 mill to engage in the inquiry process.

Im not particularly arsed who's in charge of Everton once I can see in some way it's more positive for the club then the current likely alternative - which as far as anyone else has been able to prove - there is none.

Tbh and I think it's a pity, the anti side of the debate have become as much happy clappers as anyone, gleefully rubbing there hands at anything negative to do with the club which i firmly believe is wrong and not what I want from our fan base. Additionally the debate has become moot - all you get is conditioned responses these days, rather then analysis or origanal thought! Bar one or two on here - who I have reped regardless of side in this thread for the origanality of analysis the rest is condititioned dogma or insult, not unlike the majority of the Keioc stuff!

Id look back in this thread I've brought their articles to task a couple of times, even had them revising some of their articles, also rebutted some of the points your making already!

You've lost me a bit here. I asked you which bits arent truthful.

They've backed all of their points with links to articles so people can read the lies. It's all there in black and white.

 

[Ratkiller]

Dont disagree mate, it cost LCC alone 270k of taxpayers money. I've no interest in going over old ground, Kirkby not coming of hurt us and does to this day - id accept it didn't meet planning criteria, so I would be critical of the club from that point of view!

I don't think it was ever supposed to be free mate, I'm going from memory here but wasn't are end 75 mill at lest that was my understanding throughout and during the process - I never remember it being free as is supposed by your good self et al.

Either way people will make up their own minds on Keioc and the Bu and as much as people will revere them others and likely me will call them to task,?if that's what they beleive. As I said I'm genuinely not arsed whos in charge as long as its positive within current margins at a set time, considering alternatives. The blackness or whiteness of the debate doesn't exist, neither side is particularly honest or without criticism - which is why honest analysis and origanal thought are so important - hopefully it will continue on this forum - for and against and Inbetween - where I feel the majority of the fan base actually are.

A quick google search was all it took.

http://www.keioc.net/index.php?page=kirkby-our-view

Effectively free. No mention of 75 million.

 

[Slavan]

Wouldn't it be easier to get taken over but leave kenwright as chairman where we atleast no there is some stability

no, the man is a disaster.

If the BU interivew did nothing else, it exposed how out of touch he really is.

 

[Bluesnapper]

fair do's.
the whole nationalistic thing puts me of rangers and celtic.
my scottish team is queen of the south, they are doing well this season.

Biggest ground in the Scottish third mate! Think their the only Scottish club to win the Fa cup as well!

Your should have another delve into your knowledge bank.

 

[Brennan]

You've lost me a bit here. I asked you which bits arent truthful.

They've backed all of their points with links to articles so people can read the lies. It's all there in black and white.

He doesn't have a real answer, that's the point.

 

[Bluesnapper]

Fan ownership; 40,000 shares at 3,000 £ each / 100,000 shares at 1,200 £ each.

Good stuff!

Kenwright would not talk to them either.

 

[Bluesnapper]

You've lost me a bit here. I asked you which bits arent truthful.

They've backed all of their points with links to articles so people can read the lies. It's all there in black and white.

As Brennan91 says.....

 

[Dell Boy]

no, the man is a disaster.

If the BU interivew did nothing else, it exposed how out of touch he really is.

That's way too harsh in my opinion. It also exposed him (to me at least) of being a genuine bloke doing his best. Whether that best is good enough is another question BUT you don't kick out one crowd until you're dam sure there is another waiting in the wings.

 

[Slavan]

That's way too harsh in my opinion. It also exposed him (to me at least) of being a genuine bloke doing his best. Whether that best is good enough is another question BUT you don't kick out one crowd until you're dam sure there is another waiting in the wings.

and there wont be one waiting in the wings as the current mob will only sell for crazy money.

And sorry, genuine blokes doing there best become bus drivers, you need professional, skilled people with intellegence to run football clubs, to take positions of responsiblity to look for investment 24/7.

Not some thicko who doesnt know what a financial spreadsheet is, but hides behind declaring himself the biggest fan in history.
Thats called emotional blackmail, you have been a victim.

Bill kenwrights time at everton have showed him up as incompetent, thats the nicest thing you could say.

 

[Dell Boy]

and there wont be one waiting in the wings as the current mob will only sell for crazy money.

You've no proof for that have you? It's just pub talk.

Bill kenwrights time at everton have showed him up as incompetent, .

As said previously the club are in a lot better place now than they were when Kenwright took over.

This whole debt/loss thing is very misleading. As a business our interests are on the pitch and income streams from TV money and league positions. Never mind the odd cock-up we're now a much better proposition from one that had a dodgy squad and was struggling at the wrong end of the league when Kenwright took over.

Today we're at the right end and have got there despite many other clubs spending a lot more. That's a hell of an achievement. And whether it's all down to Moyes or not isn't the point.

The club is in a lot better place now so before you and others try and hound out a fellow Blue - just be sure you have a Plan B.