The Everton Board Thread

[blueboy72]

And would you say we spent 600million wisely?

No

 

[blueboy72]

That was his last game? So he inflicts this mess on us but cant face the music? What a charlatan.



If Moshiri wanted Rafael Moshiri gets Rafael and there is nothing anyone could of done about it, no matter how much Bill tells him not to do it he wouldn't listen, and he didnt. Moshiri is majority share holder, Moshiri owns the club, it literally belongs to him, its his property, if he wanted to he could paint Goodison red and change the shirt colour to green.
And by that Im not even sticking up for Kenwright, im pointing about a straight forward fact which some choose to ignore time and time again, to put it in simple terms everything that has happened since Moshiri came is 100% of his doing and his employees cant stop him.

Actually getting back to the Rafael thing, what is still very funny is there was a lot of fume then from some of the anti Bill crowd because they thought he was chasing Moyes.... then Rafael showed up HAHAHA



His vanity? He earned the right but Moshiri didnt have to do it, he chose to do it, ignore that as much as you like but Bill remaining hasnt hurt us, if he has explain why didnt he damage us when he owned us? You cant



Lost ground? I think ever present in the Premier League and one floating around top 8 wasnt too bad when you consider what happened to Blackburn, Sunderland, Newcastle, West Ham, Villa....etc



We literally just had to sell Richarlison, so the selling of players isnt something you can really moan about Bills ownership since it still giong on, besides most wantedto go



Probably? What? haha how can you look at where we are now and say probably? its vital he goes before we actually go under, your relectant to really call him out but happy to call out Bill time and time again. The only thing that can actually save us is him going, Bill leaving wont help us at all, just like him stepping down as owner didnt help us


Give me 7th over any place we have finished under Farhad, he even shamfully sacked a manager who got us 8th once and some Evertonians actually still think that was a good idea

Because moshiri wanted better, Silva finished 8th, Koeman 7th. I have a feeling you’re talking about Sam? Who’s stats where shocking.

Like I said you’ve been brainwashed to thinking 7th/8th is successful for Everton. Do you still watch the DVD mate? Or have you ordered a new one for Xmas.

If In 2yrs at BMD a new owner and board come out and say we’re happy With 7th, what would you say about their ambition

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Weird how FFP didn't stop us from spending 600million on players and sacking 8 managers tho, weird hey.

You can cry about FFP all you like, but we had ample opportunity to do something and we failed, miserably.

But sure, blame others if it makes you feel better.

Thank God for FFP or we would wasted more money.

But that money if spent wisely doesnt equal long term success - it equals a few 6th-7th placed finishes look at what West Ham, Wolves, Villa have spent over the years.

Im not going into circles with you on this as I know you genuinely believe the rules in place are fair for all and thats fair enough you're entitled to your opinion but all the evidence points towards the rules benefiting the cartel at the top who dont want another 3-4 Man City and Chelseas popping up with no restrictions on spending power because their CL position's and revenues are then in real danger.

Man Utd can waste £600 millions and then another £600 millions until they get it right without having to sell anyone.

We had to sell Richarlison & James (wages) just in recent years to spend further - prior to that we could only spend what we did by also selling Lukaku, Stones, Gana and Barkley for a combined £170 millions and thats with USM dodgy sponsers and a one off £30 millions payment for the naming rights option of BMD.

Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal even Spurs dont have to do that. And thats why we'll never a level playing field and why simply booting Kenwrong and Denise wont really change anything significantly for us certainly not in the short to medium term.

 

[Ruairi77]

If Moshiri wanted Rafael Moshiri gets Rafael and there is nothing anyone could of done about it, no matter how much Bill tells him not to do it he wouldn't listen, and he didnt. Moshiri is majority share holder, Moshiri owns the club, it literally belongs to him, its his property, if he wanted to he could paint Goodison red and change the shirt colour to green.

Lets think, if Bill and the board didn't want Rafael, what could they have done.
Well, they could have come up with a more convincing option (say, Conte or Poch)
They could have leaked stories about disquiet at board level to the press to exert a bit of pressure, crickets!
They, shock horror, could have stepped down in protest at ownership.
But it's the second highest paid board in the PL, they're on the gravy train and it's going nowhere.

 

[Goat]

But that money if spent wisely doesnt equal long term success - it equals a few 6th-7th placed finishes look at what West Ham, Wolves, Villa have spent over the years.

Im not going into circles with you on this as I know you genuinely believe the rules in place are fair for all and thats fair enough you're entitled to your opinion but all the evidence points towards the rules benefiting the cartel at the top who dont want another 3-4 Man City and Chelseas popping up with no restrictions on spending power because their CL position's and revenues are then in real danger.

Man Utd can waste £600 millions and then another £600 millions until they get it right without having to sell anyone.

We had to sell Richarlison & James (wages) just in recent years to spend further - prior to that we could only spend what we did by also selling Lukaku, Stones, Gana and Barkley for a combined £170 millions and thats with USM dodgy sponsers and a one off £30 millions payment for the naming rights option of BMD.

Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Utd, Arsenal even Spurs dont have to do that. And thats why we'll never a level playing field and why simply booting Kenwrong and Denise wont really change anything significantly for us certainly not in the short to medium term.

Liverpool had to sell Coutinho, they used the money to win the League.

Everton had to sell Richarlison, we used the money to fight for 17th.

Sure FFP is "unfair" and the money we had alone wouldn't have made us a top 4 side.

But let's not pretend we have anybody but ourselves to blame for where we are.

 

[4737carlin]

Lets think, if Bill and the board didn't want Rafael, what could they have done.

Nothing

Well, they could have come up with a more convincing option (say, Conte or Poch)

Maybe they did but once Farhad sets his sights on someone, that's it, remember Silva?
Also how can you come up with a convincing option when there is 1.8m to spend?

They could have leaked stories about disquiet at board level to the press to exert a bit of pressure, crickets!

Maybe but only a fool would fall fir it, dont forget some threw hissy fits because they thought he wanted moyes, they are doing it now over Martinez

They, shock horror, could have stepped down in protest at ownership.

True , good job they didn't or Rafael cod of seen the season out

But it's the second highest paid board in the PL, they're on the gravy train and it's going nowhere.

Actually agree

 

[Cameron Manning]

Diseased or deceased ?

Not sure of the spelling to be honest blueBlue, is it the the second one of your post? It’s terrible being illegitimate, sorry illiterate !!

 

[BNJ1878]

That was his last game? So he inflicts this mess on us but cant face the music? What a charlatan.



If Moshiri wanted Rafael Moshiri gets Rafael and there is nothing anyone could of done about it, no matter how much Bill tells him not to do it he wouldn't listen, and he didnt. Moshiri is majority share holder, Moshiri owns the club, it literally belongs to him, its his property, if he wanted to he could paint Goodison red and change the shirt colour to green.
And by that Im not even sticking up for Kenwright, im pointing about a straight forward fact which some choose to ignore time and time again, to put it in simple terms everything that has happened since Moshiri came is 100% of his doing and his employees cant stop him.

Actually getting back to the Rafael thing, what is still very funny is there was a lot of fume then from some of the anti Bill crowd because they thought he was chasing Moyes.... then Rafael showed up HAHAHA



His vanity? He earned the right but Moshiri didnt have to do it, he chose to do it, ignore that as much as you like but Bill remaining hasnt hurt us, if he has explain why didnt he damage us when he owned us? You cant



Lost ground? I think ever present in the Premier League and one floating around top 8 wasnt too bad when you consider what happened to Blackburn, Sunderland, Newcastle, West Ham, Villa....etc



We literally just had to sell Richarlison, so the selling of players isnt something you can really moan about Bills ownership since it still giong on, besides most wantedto go



Probably? What? haha how can you look at where we are now and say probably? its vital he goes before we actually go under, your relectant to really call him out but happy to call out Bill time and time again. The only thing that can actually save us is him going, Bill leaving wont help us at all, just like him stepping down as owner didnt help us


Give me 7th over any place we have finished under Farhad, he even shamfully sacked a manager who got us 8th once and some Evertonians actually still think that was a good idea

Do I really need to type it out, again?

If so, just let me know.

 

[4737carlin]

Do I really need to type it out, again?

If so, just let me know.

Yes please

 

[BNJ1878]

Yes please

You are an idiot.

 

[BenToffee79]

Should be renamed the Everton 'Bored' Thread such is the continual regurgitation of ill-feeling being levied by the fans towards those individuals responsible for the dire straits we have been in for the past umpteen years...notwithstanding the new stadium development. Same old, same old but doesn't alter a thing at the top.

Your right I’m bored to tears of looking at Kenwrights mug ,what did we do to deserve being at the behest of that egotistical lunatic for 33 years

 

[Ruairi77]

True , good job they didn't or Rafael cod of seen the season out

by this rationalle, they deserve no criticism for not stopping the hire but deserve applause for getting him fired.
If they had the power to get him fired, why didn't they do it after the Watford game. Spurs didn't mess around.
And how did it take them a month to line up a replacement?
Any well run club would have had the next appointment lined up as soon as the writing was on the wall. And that was in October.
Yea, Moshiri seems like a tough owner to work for but this board have proven time and time again that they are no where near capable.

And your argument seems to always be "sure, they're bad, but imagine how much worse it could be".
From a board perspective, I'm not sure it gets much worse.

 

[4737carlin]

by this rationalle, they deserve no criticism for not stopping the hire but deserve applause for getting him fired.
If they had the power to get him fired, why didn't they do it after the Watford game. Spurs didn't mess around.

Because it was too soon, one of the reasons we are in this mess is because of the amount of managers we have had, which is all on Moshiri, not hiring him was one thing, once we did we had to give him time, ok when he left it had to be done, but October sacking was never an option

And how did it take them a month to line up a replacement?
Any well run club would have had the next appointment lined up as soon as the writing was on the wall. And that was in October.

You say the writting was on the wall in October? Were do you stand on Lampard because Rafael got off to a much better season start then Frank has.

Yea, Moshiri seems like a tough owner to work for but this board have proven time and time again that they are no where near capable.

When you say this board do you mean Bill and just Bill? Because we didnt have this mess whenhe owned the club.

And your argument seems to always be "sure, they're bad, but imagine how much worse it could be".
From a board perspective, I'm not sure it gets much worse.

But you take it for granted things will get better with a new board, no evidence of that, not with an absent owner, besides I bet you also took it for granted when Bill owned the club that a new owner would see us improve, guess what, it actually seen us get worse, a lot worse.

 

[chippy1722]

Imagine going back to the days of ‘we will go with what we got’, and then being told we will spend £600m in a matter of years and be much worse off.
There is no doubt Bill’s ego will be loving every minute of Moshiri’s downfall.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Liverpool had to sell Coutinho, they used the money to win the League.

Everton had to sell Richarlison, we used the money to fight for 17th.

Sure FFP is "unfair" and the money we had alone wouldn't have made us a top 4 side.

But let's not pretend we have anybody but ourselves to blame for where we are.

Liverpool sold Coutinho because FSG are not benefactors like Mansour, Usmanov, Abramovich etc are.

If Liverpool get bought oot by some gulf state or multi billionaire wanting a plaything they could spend a lot of cash without needing to sell anyone with the current rules in place (same as Utd).

I don't dispute its our own fault we're in the doldrums currently - but a lot of fans are naive to the current football pyramid which is essentially clubs like us, Villa, WHU, Wolves etc spending big money to not be in any real position to break the monopoly as the rules essentially mean having to lose a top player every 1-2 summers to allow to continue building which means an unrealistic 5+ summers of perfecto recruitment to keep pushing forward and thats not taking into account the possibility of your manager or DOF being pinched at any point if they are doing a good job.

If UEFA/PL wanted fairness it would be a salary and/or transfer cap across the board but if that happened you would start seeing small but well run clubs like Brighton getting into the CL but Brighton vs Sevilla in a CL semi tie isn't as lucrative for BT, SKY, BEIN etc as Liverpool vs Real Madrid is hence why it'll never happen.

The top clubs will also use the ESL plans to threaten their way into getting what they want from the brass at the top now.

The whole thing stinks.