Liverpool weren't in the vulnerable position we are, hovering above the zone with a new ground about to be built. They knew H and G couldn't afford to just bin the club, that they'd be forced to sell to get their huge outlay back. Here, these chaps could send us over a cliff without a care in the world.
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they never turned on the players. Their ire was all directed at one man.
dannyboy
Player Valuation: £60m
Didn't Paul Konchesky get hounded out of the club to the point where his Mum went on Facebook and called Liverpool fans Scouse scum?
If you seriously think they'd clap along after losing 5-2 at home to Watford and to us 4-1 then fair enough.
no doubt he got a hard time on the street. I'm talking about during the game, the crowd I can't recall them ever turning against the team. Because it's so self defeating.
dannyboy
Player Valuation: £60m
There's been plenty of times their ground has been empty come the final whistle. There's groans when their players have continuously misplaced passes.
Stop the self hating and place the blame where it so clearly lies.
your support for 'placing the blame' has a real risk of relegating us.
dannyboy
Player Valuation: £60m
Could say the same about you doing nothing.
yes, I'm not saying don't protest, just don't do it at this critical point . the ground and our safety, both are up in the air right now
Legend Barry Horne
Player Valuation: £6m
Would you include Benitez and the players in that?
Legend Barry Horne
Player Valuation: £6m
Understand. Benitez had been good elsewhere though - they loved him at Newcastle
Personally I'd give him time
bcblue1878
Player Valuation: £50m
Yup I would, the majority of the players are a disgrace and have been for some time!
Legend Barry Horne
Player Valuation: £6m
This just makes it so clear to me that the fans are a big problem!
To call the players a 'disgrace' is bizarre. Most of them are trying pretty hard I think in a very competitive environment
Yes, the fans are putting a bit of money into the club, although nothing compared to the amount the owners have put in
Bizarre again to then criticise the owners, fellow providers of capital, whilst taking no personal responsibility to create a positive culture
bcblue1878
Player Valuation: £50m
Ok I give in it’s all the fans fault! The owner, the board, the recruitment, the manager(s), the players etc etc are all wonderful and the fact we are 15th in the league and now 5 points off the bottom three is all the fault of the 39000+ who show up every two weeks at Goodison!
Legend Barry Horne
Player Valuation: £6m
I've said enough on this, but yes, of course the people in there doing it have the most direct impact on performance
But 39,000 people in the stadium being supportive during difficult times vs 39,000 bringing negative energy is surely going to make a difference in terms of player and management psychology? So it is a factor
The fans just seem to think because they've paid their gate money, they have no other responsibility. Imagine if the owner thought that way - 'well, I've put in my £500m, I can take no responsibility and be massively critical of the team, management etc'
But of course, for anything to work, the owner needs to take a balanced view and put time and effort into trying to make things work. It's a shame some fans can't do the same and use their brains a bit more - I don't think a lot is expected of them - just a positive contribution when they are in the ground would be helpful I expect...
Im quicker than Rondon, I'm pretty much as tall as him as well, mind you, at 68 I can't turn as quickly as I once could. Still probably as quickly as Rondon
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