The Friedkin Group - Dan & Ryan Friedkin

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777 collapsed immediately after Moshiri rinsed them. Friedkin allegedly 'withdrew' immediately after they've repaid Moshiri £22m (under the smokescreen of they are really good Americans, unlike 777).

This has got Uncle written all over it! He's coming back everyone! He's coming back to form Phoenix Holdings with Moshiri for when we move to our newly named Phoenix Stadium.
 
777 collapsed immediately after Moshiri rinsed them. Friedkin allegedly 'withdrew' immediately after they've repaid Moshiri £22m (under the smokescreen of they are really good Americans, unlike 777).

This has got Uncle written all over it! He's coming back everyone! He's coming back to form Phoenix Holdings with Moshiri for when we move to our newly named Phoenix Stadium.

I would rather we dissolve than that. At least the suffering would be over. Anything that ends with Moshiri continuing to have any involvement with the football club is the worst possible outcome.
 

777 collapsed immediately after Moshiri rinsed them. Friedkin allegedly 'withdrew' immediately after they've repaid Moshiri £22m (under the smokescreen of they are really good Americans, unlike 777).

This has got Uncle written all over it! He's coming back everyone! He's coming back to form Phoenix Holdings with Moshiri for when we move to our newly named Phoenix Stadium.

If Usmanov did come back (and thats a pretty big "if" considering the Ukraine War) then he/Moshiri will be here for many years to come when you consider the proposed USM naming rights deal for BMD was scheduled to be around 10 years.

Some wont like it but it would be the best thing for the club outside of a Gulf State buyout, which looks very unlikely.
 
If Usmanov did come back (and thats a pretty big "if" considering the Ukraine War) then he/Moshiri will be here for many years to come when you consider the proposed USM naming rights deal for BMD was scheduled to be around 10 years.

Some wont like it but it would be the best thing for the club outside of a Gulf State buyout, which looks very unlikely.

How do you not have an ounce of shame.

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If Usmanov did come back (and thats a pretty big "if" considering the Ukraine War) then he/Moshiri will be here for many years to come when you consider the proposed USM naming rights deal for BMD was scheduled to be around 10 years.

Some wont like it but it would be the best thing for the club outside of a Gulf State buyout, which looks very unlikely.
There is zero chance of sanctions being lifted allowing Usmanov to ‘return.’
He is regarded as a war criminal by the UN for his actions during the illegal seizure of the Crimea.
 
The only number i have presented as fact (or close to) is the £200mil for MSP + B&D.

There will be other smaller payments made such as those pending to Moshiri and running costs perhaps.

The additional £200mil for 777 to be paid out (plus any postential penalties) they have chosen not to do so.

Thats the facts.

Then the other outstanding debt to R&M and themselves (unless they conver to equity) would come back to them once they restructure the debts upon the stadium being completed.

US laws are meaningless once the debt is paid according to the agreement.

These guys simply didnt want to pay the money.

You have at least twice put 1 billion out there as the value of the club.

Again, I really don't understand where you are getting these numbers. Their investment doubles once the stadium is complete? How?

If the club was worth 1 billion, the sale price would be 1 billion. There's a few months left of the stadium build, the club won’t appreciate that much when the stadium is complete. Frankly the club would be lucky to recoup that cost given the overruns
 

If Usmanov did come back (and thats a pretty big "if" considering the Ukraine War) then he/Moshiri will be here for many years to come when you consider the proposed USM naming rights deal for BMD was scheduled to be around 10 years.

Some wont like it but it would be the best thing for the club outside of a Gulf State buyout, which looks very unlikely.
Don't see usmanov coming back any time soon...realistically your are looking at possibly another 12 to 18 months of war in Ukraine if not more...then even if the war stops tomorrow, business with Russia will take another couple of years after that to resume allowing people investment like usmanov back in the uk.
Only way forward for me is either Friedkin bluffing and coming back in the near future, or a bell/downing partnership with Friedkin having a stake at everton to cover that initial 200 millions loan.
 
There is zero chance of sanctions being lifted allowing Usmanov to ‘return.’
He is regarded as a war criminal by the UN for his actions during the illegal seizure of the Crimea.

If Putin called a ceasefire under "certain obligations" which the West accepted, you would be suprised how quickly Oligarchs would be welcomed back into the West.

We allow regimes that stone gay people and use slave labour into buying football clubs and hosting World Cups.

Whilst I do not believe that Moshiri is purposely holding back selling the club, if he is, then maybe he knows something Joe Public doesnt know ?

If Usmanov is as close to Putin as some claim he is, then maybe, just maybe, he knows he'll be back in the frame in the near future ?
 
If Usmanov did come back (and thats a pretty big "if" considering the Ukraine War) then he/Moshiri will be here for many years to come when you consider the proposed USM naming rights deal for BMD was scheduled to be around 10 years.

Some wont like it but it would be the best thing for the club outside of a Gulf State buyout, which looks very unlikely.

You truly are the lowest of the low.
 

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