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The Heatwave

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Jebus_lives said:
It's ridiculous. The Met Office, UKHSA, health organisations, Government have a statutory duty (CCA2004) to Warn, Inform and advise the public.

They feed a lot of the information to the media. The weather map does not fully convey the risk, detail or seriousness to at risk/vulnerable people.

The media are responsible for headlines, but they will be taking advice from those other organisations to inform their reporting. Which is why they are using the Met Office graphic.

Putting pictures of a sun on a a map doesn't really fit the criteria of warning and informing other than telling people it will be sunny - no matter how misty eyed some people might view it.

The Met Office Introduced the Red/Amber alerts linked to risk factors in 2021 which is why the media are likely using those graphics rather than the previous "calming" (but useless) maps which the memes keep pushing.

If those organisations don't "warn, inform and advise" and take precautions and people die as a result then what do you think the likely outcome would be?

But yes...memes are great. Hence the memes.
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Great post, glad to read it :cheers:

It does contradict your initial efforts (Temp vs Weather map argument), but i'm happy to settle on this one above as the debate-settler.


Jebus_lives said:
Which of those things don't require reporting?
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None, but what kind of reporting is required? Balanced, logical...or hyped with lots of use of the words fear and terrifying in headlines?

The latter gets more attention.


WA Toffee said:
Not sure if you have ever seen a weather report in any other country, but it is quite normal around the world to show hot places as dark red, warm as orange, tepid as green and cold as blue.

Maybe, instead of being some big conspiracy to make people scared of the sun or whatever the hell it is you think "they" are doing, it is just UK weather presenters using global standards?
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Also good post, but also one which contradicts the earlier Temp vs Weather Map arguments.
 
dholliday said:
Great post, glad to read it :cheers:

It does contradict your initial efforts (Temp vs Weather map argument), but i'm happy to settle on this one above as the debate-settler.



None, but what kind of reporting is required? Balanced, logical...or hyped with lots of use of the words fear and terrifying in headlines?

The latter gets more attention.



Also good post, but also one which contradicts the earlier Temp vs Weather Map arguments.
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It contradicts nothing.
 
1976 from mid-May till the en of August - I used to go to my works plant Nursery on a motorbike in shorts & pumps 7.30 am started at 7-45 am trees were starting to die in the park we augured big holes & let the hosepipe on all night to save them 100 year Oak trees - this is hot, but it won't last here....

i had a fantastic tan that year ..... under Glass & polythene was unbearable in 1976 - my mate got heatstroke .....off sick .....
 

Joey66 said:
1976 from mid-May till the en of August - I used to go to my works plant Nursery on a motorbike in shorts & pumps 7.30 am started at 7-45 am trees were starting to die in the park we augured big holes & let the hosepipe on all night to save them 100 year Oak trees - this is hot, but it won't last here....

i had a fantastic tan that year ..... under Glass & polythene was unbearable in 1976 - my mate got heatstroke .....off sick .....
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Ah the 70's, was a different kind of heat then though. Not like this heat you get nowadays, doesn't know it's born.
 
Shevin Keedy said:
Ah the 70's, was a different kind of heat then though. Not like this heat you get nowadays, doesn't know it's born.
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Not one mention of global warming yet far more detrimental than this year .....
Plus 1977 was back to normal below average summer .....
The Lake District in 1976 one reservoir completely dried up showing the old houses & bridge it had flooded ...
Stand pipes in Yorkshire as the public queued for water it was just consistently hot for an age all over the UK - no records in one day temperatures then - just a relief when the storms came.....after a long long spell of constant heat ..'
Down south have had a more sustained heat than the North West this year .....
 
dholliday said:
They're even now going for the black-charcoal burnt-out look lol



This type of lead image is all over the news. It didn't used to be back when we had heatwaves.

Hence. The. Memes.



Regardless of the bigger picture, it will likely get very hot these next days, so there's a fair argument that more alarmist reporting is justified to spread the word that people need to protect themselves. That's fair too.
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I put it to you that times have changed since this chap was telling fibs about a hurricane...
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Edit: Although he was ahead of the curve with LGBTQ+. Ledge!
 
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Joey66 said:
1976 from mid-May till the en of August - I used to go to my works plant Nursery on a motorbike in shorts & pumps 7.30 am started at 7-45 am trees were starting to die in the park we augured big holes & let the hosepipe on all night to save them 100 year Oak trees - this is hot, but it won't last here....

i had a fantastic tan that year ..... under Glass & polythene was unbearable in 1976 - my mate got heatstroke .....off sick .....
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I remember it well Joey.

My dad was at University, sponsored by his job, so he had the whole Summer off and we all stayed in a caravan, at Abersoch for six weeks.

I don’t think it rained once, during the whole time we were there.
 

COYBL25 said:
I remember it well Joey.

My dad was at University, sponsored by his job, so he had the whole Summer off and we all stayed in a caravan, at Abersoch for six weeks.

I don’t think it rained once, during the whole time we were there.
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Me too. It was more a lack of rain than brutal temps iirc. It was hot, sure, but not this level of hot expected early next week. Like, if the temp is anywhere near what is forecast on Monday, you wont want to go out. Cant remember that back then.
 
roydo said:
Me too. It was more a lack of rain than brutal temps iirc. It was hot, sure, but not this level of hot expected early next week. Like, if the temp is anywhere near what is forecast on Monday, you wont want to go out. Cant remember that back then.
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No, but it was hot sunny & no rain for a prolonged period drought conditions hosepipe bans etc .....
 

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