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The Krays and other criminals

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DavidH said:
It's a choice if you can handle yourself and fancy yourself as sharper than the average Joe. Quick route to money, a few cars and birds who like beak. The flip side is you're waiting for your door to get kicked in (and you better hope it's plod) and eventually you'll end up inside with harder people who will eat you alive. If you manage to overcome those hurdles you spend your days watched and even worse, watching. No trust in anyone, justifying it to yourself until eventually you're either back inside or badly done in.

Mugs game. These little dweebs in balaclavas bouncing round town, flipping scramblers through the street etc.... if only they knew how pathetic they are.
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I’ve dealt with a few different gangsters in the past due to the work I do, a few high profile ones who give lectures now about the disadvantages of joining a gang. Majority are all the same story and all regret going down that route.

The ones who do all that on the bikes, and the clobber they wear. A lot of them haven’t got direction and don’t know what to do with their lives. Sadly, they think selling drugs and mis behaving gives them a reputation when most people think they are just plebs.
 
One of my best mates cousins, had a heavy weight South Liverpool security firm in the 80`s / 90`s and were involved in all the door and security wars that went on at that time.

Whoever controlled the doors controlled the drugs inside and the money was then " washed " through the thug security company they ran.

They lived their whole lives at the time, in houses covered in CCTV cameras, couldn`t leave their home area without a load of muscle tagging along with them and when the door wars were at their peak, never left the house without bullet proof vests on.

Probably the only thing that kept them alive, was a big police operation, that put them inside for a good while, for being concerned in the supply of class "A"s.

This included confiscation orders for their houses and cars, which meant that they`re families ended living back where they`d all come from.

They`ve all gone straight now - property, hotels etc, using the money that the police never got their hands on.

They all looked after their mums at the time though.
 

COYBL25 said:
I`ve met him through my job at the time.

He`s a grade A wrongun.

He looked at you like you were prey and you could see the gears in his brain working, as he tried to work out whether you were a threat or whether he could take advantage of you.
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I've also met him. He may well have been 'a reformed character', but he still had an intimidating presence about him.
 
COYBL25 said:
I`ve met him through my job at the time.

He`s a grade A wrongun.

He looked at you like you were prey and you could see the gears in his brain working, as he tried to work out whether you were a threat or whether he could take advantage of you.
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He came in to our works about 4/5 years ago. One minute he was talking about his life in the care system and what he had to go through. The next he was basically shadow boxing, screaming, heavy breathing and talking nonsense, then went back to talking about how a life of crime is no good. After the learners left, he basically tried to extort our boss for more money. Luckily enough we had an ex beat Bobby who worked the Birmingham riots on the premises incase anything happened. Was such a bizarre encounter
 
All these Encrochat ones in the Echo are funny, thinking they are all untouchable talking about all the millions they are going to make, next minute they are sitting in jail for 20 years, the arse must have fell out of all those types when it came out that those phones had all been hacked.
 
My Dad grew up, in the east end, at the time the Krays were operating, so had a few books and videos about them.

He didn't have any stories or meet them or anything (He thinks he saw them when drinking in one 'their' pubs) but it sort of made me interested in them as it was always good to have that little bit of insight into the area my Dad grew up, even if it was from that point of view.

He did drink in the Blind Beggar a few times which I always thought was quite cool as a kid.
 

It’s a fascinating thing because most of us will never encounter that lifestyle, people like Pablo Escobar are portrayed as a bit of an icon, when in reality he murdered a lot of innocent people in bizzys and politicians that were just doing their job in trying to make the country a safer place.

In reality he’s an absolute wrongun who should be hated, but people love reading or watching about it as it’s infatuating
 

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