The Moyes Era

[Arteta2391]

I became a follower of the blues under the rule of Moyes. (I'm only 20 ffs) To be honest it has been a rollercoaster ride, but many memorable experiences. Anyway whenever I see the elder crowd post about past managers they usually summarize their era in an sentence. Such as the "There was a great squad during the kendall years" etc...

what can you say about the Moyes era?

"**** off, Moyes"
"during the Moyes era, it was build up but no end result"

anyone?

 

[McBain]

Stability, work ethic and the continual realisation that we over achieve given the constraints of the Board.

That Money does indeed walk the talk, and that you are only as good as your last win.

That we need a fresh outlook to not only whats on the Pitch, but whats off it.

That investment in our Club doesn't just hinge on team success, but the infrastructure behind the team.

 

[Christiffa25]

Well when you have been through the ninetys and the walter smith, mike walker era's you appreciate very much what moyes has brought us with no real cash to spend.

If you were around for earlier everton teams of the eighties with kendal and even earlier succsesfull teams you probably dont appriciate moyes's era.

All i know is once everton chose me 87/88 by the time i really took notice of football a few years later "we were ****" always fighting relegation year after year. It was awful stuff. never expecting us to have won. Seeing people's view of everton slip from big club to small club who should be down by now was embarrasing too.

Moyes has changed all that for me. Starting seasons expecting europe or even cheeky top 4 challanges has been great. Never worrying about relegation and seeing are great club being dragged away from that view others had started to form on us.

Moyes has his faults but right now there's no one better to be at the helm of our club. I hope money arrives and i hope moyes can use it and use it well. If not, im sure someone new would come in but i will always look at moyes era as a very good one where he made us respectable again and it be fun (in general) to support everton on the most limited of funds

 

[McBain]

Well when you have been through the ninetys and the walter smith, mike walker era's you appreciate very much what moyes has brought us with no real cash to spend.

If you were around for earlier everton teams of the eighties with kendal and even earlier succsesfull teams you probably dont appriciate moyes's era.

All i know is once everton chose me 87/88 by the time i really took notice of football a few years later "we were ****" always fighting relegation year after year. It was awful stuff. never expecting us to have won. Seeing people's view of everton slip from big club to small club who should be down by now was embarrasing too.

Moyes has changed all that for me. Starting seasons expecting europe or even cheeky top 4 challanges has been great. Never worrying about relegation and seeing are great club being dragged away from that view others had started to form on us.

Moyes has his faults but right now there's no one better to be at the helm of our club. I hope money arrives and i hope moyes can use it and use it well. If not, im sure someone new would come in but i will always look at moyes era as a very good one where he made us respectable again and it be fun (in general) to support everton on the most limited of funds

Just not enough for some though mate. Once you reach those dizzy heights its along way to shop if you wanna sausage roll if you know what I mean.

 

[Saliba]

My earliest memories of Everton were going over to my neighbours place late at night to watch the games. This would have been around the end of Kendall's last spell. I mean, really, it's so easy to say Moyes out, but to me, before Moyes came in I wouldbe praying every season that we'd stay in the top flight. It's obvious that we've stagnated as an upper mid table team, but holy **** it was so much worse.

 

[bflefc]

I just want us to play some attractive, entertaining football. Or at least try to.

Money does indeed talk in the game nowadays, and we don't have any vocal chords. Perennial bridesmaids might well be the best we can hope for, but sometimes a bridesmaid can be an absolute head-turner on the day, look stunning and steal all the plaudits. Everyone will want to te that first dance with her (and then hopefully get her leathered on bubbly so she'll put out).

But I'm sick of us being the pig-ugly bridesmaid. The one with fat bingo-wing arms and a face that cracks mirrors. You can't polish a turd, no matter how nice the dress or how fairy tale the wedding-day setting is.

Wherever we get our big, special day, Moyes' influence sees that we're the ugly bridesmaid. I'm now at the point where even if I was Best Man, I'd refuse to have the first 'duty' dance with her.

 

[Papa Shango]

Moyes restored some pride to the club. Thats the main thing and I will always be grateful for that.

Sadly though I think i will always remember him for being battered by the worst Liverpool team in living memory 3 times in one season.

 

[Mogwai]

I just want us to play some attractive, entertaining football. Or at least try to.

Money does indeed talk in the game nowadays, and we don't have any vocal chords. Perennial bridesmaids might well be the best we can hope for, but sometimes a bridesmaid can be an absolute head-turner on the day, look stunning and steal all the plaudits. Everyone will want to te that first dance with her (and then hopefully get her leathered on bubbly so she'll put out).

But I'm sick of us being the pig-ugly bridesmaid. The one with fat bingo-wing arms and a face that cracks mirrors. You can't polish a turd, no matter how nice the dress or how fairy tale the wedding-day setting is.

Wherever we get our big, special day, Moyes' influence sees that we're the ugly bridesmaid. I'm now at the point where even if I was Best Man, I'd refuse to have the first 'duty' dance with her.

This gets my vote for post of the year......

 

[toffee-bhoy]

its by no means a crime to suggest his time has come to move on or to take a different role at EFC

 

[deliverance]

If, as I hope and pray, a new man comes in who is the polar opposite of Moyes and gets Goodison on it's feet again - perhaps even beating the ****e and winning a cup - Moyes will be a footnote and people will shake their heads, murmuring quizically "10 years????.....10 'effin years"

 

[when i score we riot]

Let me remind you how much the premier league has changed since Moyes came around. The last time we won something, our team consisted mainly of players from the british countries and around. Now the sport has become globalized and much bigger in scope. In our squad we now have something like 15 different nationalities. Only our regular starting eleven usually has 7-8 different nationalities. There's so much more to keep track of and so much more money to spend, and it makes a lot more impact.

The management before Moyes hasn't been able to cope with these changes in any rational way. Moyes has introduced a straight and honest way of thinking in an increasingly fragmented sport. A united way of thinking that stays true to the club's principles. A way of thinking that keeps these over-paid players' feet on the ground. That's a large feat in itself and hard to follow.

For me, Moyes means emobying the new Everton way in a time where the Everton way is almost an unrealistic or irrational way of playing and thinking football.

 

[Summerskin]

Everton Honors list:

1st Division title: 9
FA Cup: 5
European Cup Winners Cup: 1
Keeping us up: 1
Punching above our weight occasionally: 1
The odd win over a big club: 1

The last three don't wash for me, and it's all he's achieved here.

The dementia-riddled ballbag across the park took a year to bag his first trophy after a decade out of the game.

What has Moyes done in that exact timeframe? Swayed the odd neutral into thinking we're better now then we were under Walter Smith?
It's not exactly f*cking difficult is it?

 

[njligernj]

I became a follower of the blues under the rule of Moyes. (I'm only 20 ffs) To be honest it has been a rollercoaster ride, but many memorable experiences. Anyway whenever I see the elder crowd post about past managers they usually summarize their era in an sentence. Such as the "There was a great squad during the kendall years" etc... what can you say about the Moyes era? "**** off, Moyes" "during the Moyes era, it was build up but no end result" anyone?

I'll forgive you as you were 10 when he took over but it was quite possible we would have been relegated without him.

Statistically speaking we probably would have had 3-4 different managers during the time we've had Moyes.

Here's what I always say about Moyes (or for that matter any manager for any team in any sport). If you want to replace him I want to hear you (not you in particular but anyone) say the following, "I understand that almost all managers fail. Our current manager has been more successful than average given our net spend. Statistically speaking if we fire our current manager and replace him the most likely outcome is the new manager will fail and be fired within 2-4 years. I realize that Bill Kenwright, a person most of wouldn't trust to make us a sandwich with no filling, will be the person choosing the new manager. I realize there is a chance we will get relegated. However I am so sure Moyes is the wrong person that I am willing to take all those calculated risks."

If someone says that I will think "I disagree but that person has thought critically about this decision and made a logical (for them) conclusion." However all I usually ever hear is this insane optimism, as if people are in no way aware of the reality of the Premier League and what happens. It's always "look at ____" (this year it's Newcastle ... in past years people might have said Villa or a bunch of other teams who have since fallen off). Grass is always greener I suppose.

I suppose it's not impossible to find a manager who could get us fourth place and a cup (although recent history in the Prem would suggest it's pretty close to impossible) but it's highly improbable. Less than 1% chance I'd say.

 

[Summerskin]

I suppose it's not impossible to find a manager who could get us fourth place and a cup (although recent history in the Prem would suggest it's pretty close to impossible) but it's highly improbable. Less than 1% chance I'd say.

No one here (in their right mind) thinks we'll get anywhere close to fourth without spending a sh*t tonne...the league is bought, without question.

The constant bottling out of TWO cup competitions every year against sh*te like our current neighbours, Tranmere, Reading, Shrewsbury, Birmingham etc is not good enough for a man who "wants to bring the success of the 80's" back to Goodison.

Doesn't take £100m net spend a year to win the odd cup and restore a sense of winning; Cardiff, Millwall, Boro, Wigan, Fulham & Portsmouth have all come closer to winning a trophy than we have in the last decade, and who the [Poor language removed] are they?

He's the shrewdest businessman around and a great man manager but he's also a bottler, a weak tactician with a penchant for his underperforming favourites and a loser...his track record of a lower league title and an F.A Cup runners up medal will tell you that, and that is a faccchtt.

Not to mention the f*cking awful football.

 

[Ara]

Someone said it took Kenny a year to win a cup. It took him 100 mil to win a cup no one else wanted. If Moyes was given 100 mil this summer we would get 4th an a cup. Moyes has turned us from a relagation candidate with 0 assets in to a top 7 club with assets. Moyes simply needs to win something but doesn't seem to no how. He and his team cower at the big occasion. He was given his chance by Fergie in 2009. When he played a 2nd string Utd side that we only just beat on pens. Then chocked at Wembely.

The only problem I have with Moyes is his transfers. He buys great players but he doesn't buy GAME changers. An about 27 goalies