The next manager appointment (new thread)

[Rooney_Tunes]

One thing Ashley Young does have with Everton fans is credit in the bank. There is absolutely no reason we should get rid of dyche and role the dice on Ashley Young.

Comes across as an intelligent, thoughtful person in interviews...coaching licence?

 

[twoblue]

Comes across as an intelligent, thoughtful person in interviews...coaching licence?

Dyche will keep it Everton in this league, should definitely stick with him until we bring sexy foreign manager with a philosophy in the summer and a war chest

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Dyche will keep it Everton in this league, should definitely stick with him until we bring sexy foreign manager with a philosophy in the summer and a war chest

This thread is a repository for our dreams and hopes and the current incumbent is not an option here.

 

[bluestevon]

….i think Friedkin has already sacked him once, probably says it all.

So did Abramovich though and he brought him back mate.

Also unsure but from what I know of them, it was the CEO who fired - TFG seem hands off in that regard.

 

[Eggs]

So did Abramovich though and he brought him back mate.

Also unsure but from what I know of them, it was the CEO who fired - TFG seem hands off in that regard.

…the CEO linked with us?

 

[bluestevon]

Moyes won that same cup with West Ham. It’s a tinpot joke competition that didn’t exist 3 years ago.

Reached the final of the EL the season after though as well mate.

Spurs sacked him a few days before a final as well. Throw in it was the COVID time so even more of a aberration.

Would he win something at us if say he stayed there seasons, his record suggests he very well could do, be it a league cup or the new EL tinpot comp, which I'm sure every Evertonian would love for us to win in actuality.

 

[YoboCopter]

One person i dont want is thomas frank

 

[bluestevon]

Oh I agree everything needs to change at Everton.

We need to build something lasting , sustainable.

Jose has never been interested in putting foundations into a club / team .

It's always been "all about me".

He will demand that we buy ageing , expensive players and not give a toss about Everton when he leaves in 2 years after falling out with owners because they wouldn't pay £25 million for a 40 year old Edin Dzeko.

Besides I get I don't think he's ever bought a load of ageing players at any team, yes he dies usually bring in a veteran or two, but every manager does that, Dyche brought in Young and before that we brought in Gueye abd Tarkowski.

Long as you don't spend big money on said players or offer them stupidly long contracts then it doesn't damage the club but actually improves it.

Ultimately have Tarkowski, Gueye and Young been worth the combined total of 2.5m in fees and their wages?

 

[goldfinchmule]

One person i dont want is thomas frank

Can,t stand seeing him chewing gum in the dugout,bet thats how he eats his dinner the meff.

 

[Blue peter]

One person i dont want is thomas frank

Yeah no franks you

 

[matty1878]

Can,t stand seeing him chewing gum in the dugout,bet thats how he eats his dinner the meff.

 

[matty1878]

One person i dont want is thomas frank

quite frankly i agree

seen a few shouts on here

 

[bluestevon]

Oh I agree everything needs to change at Everton.

We need to build something lasting , sustainable.

Jose has never been interested in putting foundations into a club / team .

It's always been "all about me".

He will demand that we buy ageing , expensive players and not give a toss about Everton when he leaves in 2 years after falling out with owners because they wouldn't pay £25 million for a 40 year old Edin Dzeko.

Bored so took a look at a few of his more recent jobs, who he bought for decent money 10m+ and their age.

Roma
Tammy Abraham (23yo) 41m
Kumbulla (21yo) 26m
Shomurodov (26yo) 19m
Vina (23yo) 13m
Ibanez (22yo) 11m
Patricio (33yo) 11m

4/6 - 23yo or younger - 94/121m
1/6 - 26yo 26/121m
1/6 - 33yo 11/121m (a keeper btw)

Spurs

Celso (24yo) 32m
Bergwijn (22yo) 30m
Reguilon (23yo) 30m
Doherty (28yo) 16m
Hojbjerg (25yo) 16m
Rodon (22yo) 12m

3/6 - 23yo or younger 72/136m
2/6 - 24/25yo 48/136m
1/6 - 28yo 16/136m

United

Pogba - 23yo 105m
Lukaku - 24yo 84m
Fred - 25yo 59m
Matic - 29yo 44m
Mkhytarian - 27yo 42m
Bailley - 22yo 38m
Linderlof -23yo -35m
Sanchez - 29yo 34m
Dalot - 19yo 22m

So 4/9 were 23 or younger 200m/463m
2/9 were 24/25 143m/463m
3/9 were 27-29yo 120m/463m

So over his last 3 major jobs

11/21 players he bought were 23 or younger
5/21 between 24/25
Only 5/21 were 26 or older and only one of those over the age of 30 (a goalie)

366m on players under 24
217m on players 24/25yo
147m on players 26 or older

It simply doesn't stack up to the idea he'd sign a load of signing players on big money as his recent history (last three major jobs over the last 8 years) suggests the complete opposite and more than half of his total players brought in and for over half the money spent have been on players 23 or younger. If you roll that out to players 25 or younger (so a four year contract sees them still not 30 so have sell on value) then the stats show more like 75-80% of the players he buys are in this range and he spends approximately 80-85% of the money there also.

Had a wui k look at Chelsea as well, if I included all the data from both stints the stats look even more compelling that he doesn't spend a big proportion on signing layers but rather on ones who are just hitting their potential

 

[bluestevon]

Mourinho at Everton would be hilarious. Terrible appointment, but hilarious for a bit.

Not sure it would be mate.

Let's break down what we are tired of as a fanbase.

No mark managers belittling the club as a minnow.
Freeloading players.
Route one footy with zero build up play or possession.
A ridiculous trophy doubt.
Being the shipping boys if the league and taking it without a word.
An inferiority complex again at pretty much half the leagues teams.
The inability to have any forward who can score

Now factor in exactly how Mourinho addresses each of those points throughout his history

 

[catcherintherye]

Not sure it would be mate.

Let's break down what we are tired of as a fanbase.

No mark managers belittling the club as a minnow.
Freeloading players.
Route one footy with zero build up play or possession.
A ridiculous trophy doubt.
Being the shipping boys if the league and taking it without a word.
An inferiority complex again at pretty much half the leagues teams.
The inability to have any forward who can score

Now factor in exactly how Mourinho addresses each of those points throughout his history

I suppose I mean hilarious, as in it wouldn't really work.

He'd be a bad appointment, in my view.

He would also be another manager who would not fit with what the DOF was doing.