The next manager appointment (new thread)

[JobForTheMoyes]

Who signed Niasse ?

Martinez said: "We're delighted because Oumar is a player we have been following for a long time.

"He is the right personality and someone who is in a very good moment of his career. He has had a lot of success in Russia and he brings a different quality to what we already have in our squad.

"I'm really pleased to be able to bring in Oumar in this window and we know he's going to have a massive impact going forward. He brings a real hunger and desire to be successful into what is already a strong squad."

 

[bluestevon]

Everton under Moyes played some of the best football we have seen since the 80s under a ridiculously small budget. He signed Baines, Coleman, Jags, Lescott, Stones, Arteta, Cahill, Fellaini and Pienaar.

Are you serious, Everton under Moyes did not play exciting football. Our entire model of CF was one who could chase down long balls into the channels.

Love the revisionism though that Moyes wasn't a very defensive, cautious manager.

 

[Bedfordblue]

I never thought it was anything other than being asked about his eleven years at Everton. It just reminded me of the good times when was our manager. Interestingly there was an article suggesting Friedkin is considering a Moyes/Southgate combo. If it meant Southgate as manager I'd prefer that scenario not to play out. Moyes/Potter though would be perfect.

Wasn’t aimed at any thoughts you had on him tbh, I posted something a couple of days ago saying he he’s popping up everywhere talking about us lately…… only to be told he can only answer questions posed to him, now low and behold he’s popped up on and Everton fan channel

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Are you serious, Everton under Moyes did not play exciting football. Our entire model of CF was one who could chase down long balls into the channels.

Love the revisionism though that Moyes wasn't a very defensive, cautious manager.

Not when we had actual strikers. Yakubu had a great season for us. I remember Pienaar and Baines' link up play. I remember Arteta's flair. I remember Osman's skill. I remember Coleman bombing forward. I remember 4-4 v Utd and wins away at City and Spurs. We played some excellent football under Moyes.

 

[Bedfordblue]

 

[blue61]

Are you serious, Everton under Moyes did not play exciting football. Our entire model of CF was one who could chase down long balls into the channels.

Love the revisionism though that Moyes wasn't a very defensive, cautious manager.

Generally, you're right. But I'd give him credit for the side we had around 2008/09. Cracking team that was, but I get your point about Moyes mindset.

 

[Bedfordblue]

I appreciate Moyes for some much needed relief from the fear of relegation, and some comparative high points along the way.
Had some absolute corkers on the UEFA aways, Nuremberg, Villa Real etc, as well as some trips to Wembley. Some really great days out and up and around the ‘best of the rest’ for a spell.
Unfortunately thats as good as it ever got, amongst the best of the rest.
As much as I enjoyed some of it, it was never enough, and by the last year of his tenure it was enough of an excuse to pack in my season ticket.
I look back on his time as the major reason our expectations have been lowered to the point where people are desperate for his return….. for more of The Magnificent 7th.
His narrative that plucky Everton can only hope for so much makes my blood boil. He’s robbed us of the expectation of being better than average.
He’s helped brainwash a generation of Evertonians into thinking what he served up was acceptable, aspirational even.
Sure it’s generally been worse since him, but that doesn’t elevate his time for me, it just shows what a downward spiral he set us up for.
All that before is his despicable behaviour when he left, saw out his contract having bent over for Whiskey breath and then tried to take out best players for peanuts accusing the club of holding them back.
Thanks but no thanks for me.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

I appreciate Moyes for some much needed relief from the fear of relegation, and some comparative high points along the way.
Had some absolute corkers on the UEFA aways, Nuremberg, Villa Real etc, as well as some trips to Wembley. Some really great days out and up and around the ‘best of the rest’ for a spell.
Unfortunately thats as good as it ever got, amongst the best of the rest.
As much as I enjoyed some of it, it was never enough, and by the last year of his tenure it was enough of an excuse to pack in my season ticket.
I look back on his time as the major reason our expectations have been lowered to the point where people are desperate for his return….. for more of The Magnificent 7th.
His narrative that plucky Everton can only hope for so much makes my blood boil. He’s robbed us of the expectation of being better than average.
He’s helped brainwash a generation of Evertonians into thinking what he served up was acceptable, aspirational even.
Sure it’s generally been worse since him, but that doesn’t elevate his time for me, it just shows what a downward spiral he set us up for.
All that before is his despicable behaviour when he left, saw out his contract having bent over for Whiskey breath and then tried to take out best players for peanuts accusing the club of holding them back.
Thanks but no thanks for me.

Yeah, because the coffers were overflowing for a top four challenge.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Yeah, because the coffers were overflowing for a top four challenge.

Again, one of his nuggets to get us all feeling sorry for him.
No we didn’t have the money the top 4 were spending, but we certainly weren’t as brasic as he has us think.
Wages were between 5-7 highest in the league and transfer spends were similar.
His return was in line with his spending no more no less, but according to him we were paupers.

Besides, I haven’t said we should have been challenging for top 4, but beating one of them occasionally would have been nice, plenty of other similarly placed and funded teams were able too, but oh no, not the Moysiah

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Bringing Moyes back would be a divisive appointment.
Haven’t we had enough of those recently?
He is not a manager who added to our trophy cabinet .
His departure and it’s aftermath was disrespectful and unpleasant.
His return for many ( not all of course) would represent a massive and dispiriting backward step when we would want to be looking forward to a brighter future.
There are so many managers in the world why would we wish to return to this nondescript snake ?

 

[bluestevon]

Not when we had actual strikers. Yakubu had a great season for us. I remember Pienaar and Baines' link up play. I remember Arteta's flair. I remember Osman's skill. I remember Coleman bombing forward. I remember 4-4 v Utd and wins away at City and Spurs. We played some excellent football under Moyes.

I remember at every single away game Vs a 'big club' us being absolutely terrible and playing to get a 0-0 mate. I also remember the exhilarating season we scored 34 all season.

Sorry but to say everyone under Moyes was anything like an exciting team is rubbish, we weren't at all.

And in twelve seasons yeah you'll easily be able to throw out a few games that make it look like we were exciting, but cmon I could equally throw out some of the performances where we got absolutely torn apart and then try say we where defensively awful using that logic. Like the a couple of 6+ defeats against arsenal, choking in every cup for 12 years. One of the worst Everton performances in a cup final I ever saw when we went 1-0 up with Saha in the first few minutes then spent the entire game trying to defend that.

 

[bluestevon]

Generally, you're right. But I'd give him credit for the side we had around 2008/09. Cracking team that was, but I get your point about Moyes mindset.

Just a note, we saw exactly what a Moyes team was capable of under a more attacking manager in Martinez first season, genuinely exciting to watch.

Moyes had by and large all the tools needed to play a far more exciting type of footy, he chose not to do so because inherently it's against his nature.

Showed the same at United, got sacked twice by west ham because he reverted to type.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Again, one of his nuggets to get us all feeling sorry for him.
No we didn’t have the money the top 4 were spending, but we certainly weren’t as brasic as he has us think.

Yes we were:

Bill Kenwright has laid bare the scale of the financial problems at Everton with a frank admission that their bankers have forced the club to reduce the overdraft and blocked additions to David Moyes's squad.In a remarkable exchange with representatives of The Blue Union, a coalition of supporters' groups alarmed at the lack of investment in Everton, the club chairman admitted that proceeds from recent player sales and Bellefield, the former training ground sold for £9m, had been taken by Barclays to reduce debts of £45m.

Everton finances stretched to the limit, admits chairman Bill Kenwright

Everton's chairman Bill Kenwright has blamed the club's bank for the lack of transfer activity this summer

www.theguardian.com

 

[blue61]

Just a note, we saw exactly what a Moyes team was capable of under a more attacking manager in Martinez first season, genuinely exciting to watch.

Moyes had by and large all the tools needed to play a far more exciting type of footy, he chose not to do so because inherently it's against his nature.

Showed the same at United, got sacked twice by west ham because he reverted to type.

It was the semi final against 'them' that summed up his mindset for me. 1 up at half time and there for the taking, and we just sat back.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Just a note, we saw exactly what a Moyes team was capable of under a more attacking manager in Martinez first season, genuinely exciting to watch.

Moyes had by and large all the tools needed to play a far more exciting type of footy, he chose not to do so because inherently it's against his nature.

Showed the same at United, got sacked twice by west ham because he reverted to type.

Whereas the season before Bobby the club had scraped 16th!