The return of David Moyes

[Ferguson1878]

I wonder if Moyes was on Thelwell's recommendation.

That mute just sits there I think

 

[Simon Buttle]

One good thing with Moyes is he won't take a week or two to fart about looking at the squad he will have a plan from the moment he walks through the door, I wouldn't be surprised if he has dropped hints at 2 or 3 players he might want in too help with the fight.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

I meant the "deadliest in the league" part.

His performance level when he got going that season was awesome:

Marko Arnautovic transformed at West Ham under David Moyes

Marko Arnautovic was goalless when Slaven Bilic was sacked in November, but the Austrian has now scored five in his last six games under David Moyes. We look at the stats behind his transformation...

www.skysports.com

 

[Ferguson1878]

People forget how good the team was in his last season as it got kind of overshadowed by Bobby's first. But it was essentially just a continuation of the prior season, but with a top striker up front.

Or because it was 12 years ago

 

[windymiller]

His performance level when he got going that season was awesome:

Marko Arnautovic transformed at West Ham under David Moyes

Marko Arnautovic was goalless when Slaven Bilic was sacked in November, but the Austrian has now scored five in his last six games under David Moyes. We look at the stats behind his transformation...

www.skysports.com

He scored 11 goals that season. Salah scored 32, Kane 30, Aguero 21, even Raheem Sterling scored 18.

Define "deadliest in the league", please.

 

[John O'Kane]

Well, no. I haven't.

In response to his perception he's a safe pair of hands short term - I said repeatedly his short record is what's poor. That being his 2 half season stints at West Ham (both very comparable to our situation now), and his single seasons at R.Sociedad, Man Utd and Sunderland.

I also said, as you quoted, if you think he's the right option long term then his results back that up. However, I personally don't want him long term.

I agree, this is how I feel too. He doesn’t seem to be a manager who ‘rescues’ bad situations. It’s been very tight each time, even when given half a season or more. He’s not the type to lie to the players and suddenly tell them they are world beaters, upping confidence. He’s never been that way. Yes, given time I suppose he can build a good team, as we experienced, but how long did that take? Many seasons. This idea that we are suddenly going to march up the table by parachuting in Moyes is not borne out by the facts I’m afraid.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

He scored 11 goals that season. Salah scored 32, Kane 30, Aguero 21, even Raheem Sterling scored 18.

Define "deadliest in the league", please.

Maybe try watching his play. It was brilliant. He was making goals and scoring every type of goal in the book to boot - headers, volleys, solo runs, poachers efforts. And he made those numbers after a dreadful start when he was playing out on the wing under Bilic.

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

People forget how good the team was in his last season as it got kind of overshadowed by Bobby's first. But it was essentially just a continuation of the prior season, but with a top striker up front.

Pure and utter BS .

 

[Daytripper]

People forget how good the team was in his last season as it got kind of overshadowed by Bobby's first. But it was essentially just a continuation of the prior season, but with a top striker up front.

Gareth Barry and James McCarthy along with Ross Barkley starting a lot more games, gerard deulofeu also.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Pure and utter BS .

Go back and watch the videos. Started the season with an eleven game unbeaten run:

"Everton had a very consistent league campaign, never dropping below seventh place throughout the whole season. Highlights included a 1–0 win over Manchester United in the first game of the season, scoring two stoppage time goals to defeat Tottenham Hotspur 2–1 and a 2–0 home win over reigning Premier League champions Manchester City. However, too many draws and a lack of goals saw Everton's push for a European place fade and they finished sixth in the league. It did mean that the club finished above rivals Liverpool for the second successive season for the first time since 1937."

Signing Lukaku was the key difference.

 

[everton1953]

I agree, this is how I feel too. He doesn’t seem to be a manager who ‘rescues’ bad situations. It’s been very tight each time, even when given half a season or more. He’s not the type to lie to the players and suddenly tell them they are world beaters, upping confidence. He’s never been that way. Yes, given time I suppose he can build a good team, as we experienced, but how long did that take? Many seasons. This idea that we are suddenly going to march up the table by parachuting in Moyes is not borne out by the facts I’m afraid.

Oh dear, and here's me thinking we might be in the top 6 by May. Oh dear. So much for hoping.

 

[jackyboy]

Just really hope they don't do a big jubilee homecoming, will be rather embarrassing

 

[Swagger]

Maybe try watching his play. It was brilliant. He was making goals and scoring every type of goal in the book to boot - headers, volleys, solo runs, poachers efforts. And he made those numbers after a dreadful start when he was playing out on the wing under Bilic.

Big + about Moyes is that there's clear evidence of him actually improving players. Arnautovic is an excellent example at West Ham. Also Lingard, Bowen, Kudus, Paqueta (state of the latter two under Lopetegui) etc. Compared with Dyche we have Dwight Mcneil and...that's about it. Maybe Doucoure for about 10 games (God help us all). How did Calvert-Lewin play under Dyche?

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Even though I'm not over the moon if he's appointed but, all what matters is Moyes is a far better manager than Dyche.

 

[everton1953]

Just really hope they don't do a big jubilee homecoming, will be rather embarrassing

Just sit on your hands and avoid getting embarrassed.