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The Wire revisited (with spoilers)
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the golden visionary
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it's crazy how many people who don't like the second season, the Greeks, the soboktas, ziggy the malaka
It's TV greatness. Especially the mcnulty scene in the hotel. Spot on
I think it’s more the fact you‘re so engaged with the characters and storylines from the first season, the po-lece and the gangsters that’s it’s hard just to reset and get involved with a whole new storyline, Jane does/people smuggling.
Ziggy doesn’t help season 2 either imo.
JimmyJeffers
Player Valuation: £70m
Correct. Is annoying and makes no sense why anyone would get involved with him.
random
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He would have a job writing it after he died tbf
I don't agree, firstly, he is proverbial and literal family to a close knit bunch who, in part protect and encourage him to screw up.
He's the kid in class who would always take the dare, always be ready to make you laugh and knew himself he wasn't going to amount to much. The relationship with his cousin shows him as a young man who wants desperately to fit in, to make his father proud, but also knows he doesn't have it in him.
He's born into a world where he doesn't belong, he's got enough intelligence to know that and shows some skills - computer literacy for one - that in another, say middle class, environment would have been his route into adulthood.
He's Hamlet-esque, defined by his inability to master and control the position and world he is born in to.
Screw you guys, I am bumping him up to my favourite character.
JimmyJeffers
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Season 2 was the best you utter horrors
Young men are always getting involved in things that make absolutely no sense. In the circles Ziggy Sobotka moves in there are is always going to be someone willing to be convinced they're onto something good.
Educated, relatively wealthy and experienced people fall for scams that look ludicrous from the outside on a startlingly regular basis. In an environment where education is poor and desperation is high then someone like Ziggy is always going to find someone to work with - it's shown and alluded that he does have the odd successful trick here and there. He just doesn't handle it very well and gets carried away by his insecurities.
Stevie Nicks Bootleg
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I don't think anyone who rates season 5 ahead of season 3 should be questioning anyone's list- that's a bit like rating Weekend at Bernie's 2 over Life of Brian. Season 5 so obviously the worst season, far-fetched unrealistic plot, and with a big run of average episodes. Despite being saved by the final 3 episodes, which were very good, this was nowhere near enough to elevate it from the most obvious 'worst season' of any great TV series.
JimmyJeffers
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There was a sequel?!
Stevie Nicks Bootleg
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Yes...and Bernie's still dead.
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