Transfer Rumour Theo Walcott

[n01efc]

Big Sam is making his first big mistake with Walcott.

No resale value. Dodgy attitude. Too old.

That’s what the Utd fans said about Zlatan last year.

 

[Mathieubleucoyb]

Big Sam is making his first big mistake with Walcott.

No resale value. Dodgy attitude. Too old.

Big Sam won’t be here very long

 

[Yorkie89]

It’s funny how he was 1/8 to join last night and now he is odds on to join Southampton and we are out to 9/4 that says we ain’t getting him to me

 

[MACCA75]

It’s funny how he was 1/8 to join last night and now he is odds on to join Southampton and we are out to 9/4 that says we ain’t getting him to me

I agree. Wasted our time.

 

[MikeH72]

You're using a singular example...its like saying 99.9999999999999999% of people over 30 decline in pace but because one bloke didn't then it proves your point.

Honestly, ive never witnessed anyone becoming fitter when theyre over 30...its illogical.






I was amazed at the price..then again its the same as Bolasie + Klaassen. So it could be classed as a bargain lol

bluetoff what would you class him as if not a playmaker + do you think he could play box to box if gana was deep?

Well Walcott isn't over 30 so it's alright

 

[Eggs]

It’s funny how he was 1/8 to join last night and now he is odds on to join Southampton and we are out to 9/4 that says we ain’t getting him to me

..that is interesting. I have to say, I always doubted he’d be willing to come north of the M25. As i’ve said, I doubt footy is important to him, I wouldn’t be surprised if he makes a decision based on logistics.

 

[Tony101]

Jamie vardy is over 30 an he is still rapid. Am sure not many people would have complained if we got him this window even tho pace is a big part of his game. With that said am not sure Theo Walcott is right for Everton I will support him if he comes like but we desperately need a left back I feel like many have said there might be movement late in the window an a chance to grab Luke Shaw. It will add much needed balance to are team.

 

[jceverton]

Same as i was saying the other day mate, depends what metrics you are using to determine a players peak age, so many variables that a single study with set parameters and a small time frame can't possibly produce a definitive answer.

Will give you examples why, do they take into account how long the player has been playing/training at the top level - number of games - miles on his clock etc?
Do they take into account age cross indexed with injury histories to show how a player whose not suffered with any significant injury will tend to age much better?
Do they take into account how professional the player is, for example Ronaldo current one compared to Brazilian Rondaldo?

The person you quoted said about players relying on pace as their main attribute and he can't think of any who was still at his peak post 30.

Can give one straight away, Vardy is 31 - still absolutely as fast as he ever was.

Won't argue that pace declines with age - only have to check sprinters and world records for that obvious fact, but will throw out another stat to balance that, longer distance runners tend to become better as they age, similar parallels can be said about footballers, Giggs who he stated etc - his best season for United was when he was 30, and arguably his greatest ever game was then too against Juventus, Similarly Ronaldo has become a slower BUT better player at 30 than he was at 25 (his supposed peak age).

It's far too wide a subject to give a definitive answer on

Interesting points mate, the article linked by @Timak did give examples of older attacking players becoming better at other aspects of the game which compensated for loss of pace. Specifically on Walcott who it seems relies on pace hard to see why he isn’t going to see a drop in performance in next 12-18 months.

 

[matty1878]

Thing is we actually do have pace we just don’t play it. Isn’t much of a coincidence that we look our best when Lookman, Vlasic among others are on the pitch.

Weirdly my favourite performance this season was the last EL game against Apollon. Tons of pace in that team and we actually looked decent for once!

That was a young b team that one mate

 

[Deleted member 28206]

Jamie vardy is over 30 an he is still rapid. Am sure not many people would have complained if we got him this window even tho pace is a big part of his game. With that said am not sure Theo Walcott is right for Everton I will support him if he comes like but we desperately need a left back I feel like many have said there might be movement late in the window an a chance to grab Luke Shaw. It will add much needed balance to are team.

Vardy was 30 - 2 days ago.

 

[Nymzee]

That was a young b team that one mate

What’s that got to do with anything?

 

[Lad from Vienna]

can he play left back? get him in

 

[Tony101]

Vardy was 30 - 2 days ago.

Yeah but he is still over 30 an he is still rapid as long as his pace doesn't just sudently go in this next 6 months of the season. the point still stands granted he has had a lot less injuries than Walcott so that needs to be considered. but loads of people would have been made up if we got him for 20 million this window an that was kind of the point I was making. Also not everyone the minute they reach 30 suddenly become snails even tho a lot of players do decline we only need to look at Lennon an Mirallas who have both lost that burst of speed with age.

 

[a woods]

none of spurs players were bought for big money or from big clubs , they are where they are due to good recruitment and we could do the same , we on the other hand are adding theo walcott to our already long list of overpriced mediocrity and some of our fans think is ok frightening !

 

[MACCA75]

none of spurs players were bought for big money or from big clubs , they are where they are due to good recruitment and we could do the same , we on the other hand are adding theo walcott to our already long list of overpriced mediocrity and some of our fans think is ok frightening !

Ah just buy great players for not much money. Hadn’t thought of that.

If you don’t think Walcott would improve us, then you haven’t seen him or us play.