Rita_Poon
Player Valuation: £90m
On this occasion in hand it is a her.
Shove your opinion re 'unhinged'.
Go back and answer the question, how many potential guilty do you want brutalised to appear for sentencing.
Many thanks.
This nurse Letby case
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Shove your opinion re 'unhinged'.
Go back and answer the question, how many potential guilty do you want brutalised to appear for sentencing.
Many thanks.
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £6m
All of them. Still no argument so I stand by the unhinged comment 100%. Do you think the innocent guy found guilty of rape would be more bothered about being forced to attend his sentencing or losing his liberty for circa 18 years? You haven’t put forward any coherent argument at all so far as to why it is objectionable.
Rita_Poon
Player Valuation: £90m
17 years*
Why should the innocent confirm the inaccurate finding of the state?
Also he wasn't forced to attend*
How will you 'force' attendance?
"hello grandpa my old friend..."
Do you answer your own post most of the time ?
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £6m
Don’t follow that I’m afraid.Do you answer your own post most of the time ?
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £6m
Same way you force someone into or out of a cell, pretty simple.
Forcing people out of cells for sentencing purposes won’t work, for many reasons.
In my opinion, the best way to sort out the issue is to say going forward, anyone who doesn’t attend sentencing will spend an % of the sentence initially on a basic regime, instead of entering the prison system on standard.
if you know you’re doing the first 20% of your sentence for example on basic, regardless of what you got, it would be life changing to these people and I can guarantee almost no one would miss.
The likes of Cashman knows he couldn’t handle 8 years or so before he was considered for standard, it’s just not worth it to them. It’s such a big difference. They know their new life’s in prison and when there, they try to make the best of it.
In my opinion, the best way to sort out the issue is to say going forward, anyone who doesn’t attend sentencing will spend an % of the sentence initially on a basic regime, instead of entering the prison system on standard.
if you know you’re doing the first 20% of your sentence for example on basic, regardless of what you got, it would be life changing to these people and I can guarantee almost no one would miss.
The likes of Cashman knows he couldn’t handle 8 years or so before he was considered for standard, it’s just not worth it to them. It’s such a big difference. They know their new life’s in prison and when there, they try to make the best of it.
bring the ghost on
Player Valuation: £35m
You want to override the criminal law burden of proof (guilty beyond all reasonable doubt, including the requirement to demonstrate all of the component parts of a murder charge at that standard), and replace it with your own standard: “clear conviction on undeniable evidence”.
The problem is that no one would ever be charged on your standard, because any criminal barrister worth their salt can discredit evidence; even admissions are not undeniable. That is literally the reason the current burden of proof has been construed, tried and tested over centuries in this manner.
The case itself has been deliberated and the convictions are extremely clear. She was found guilty to the aforementioned standard not of 1 count, but 14. She was on shift for all 75 incidents. She showed no remorse. It beggars belief that you are arguing an acquittal is an appropriate outcome for someone who has committed so many heinous crimes.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Of course, there's been no miscarriages of justice ever.
That's quite an abstract world you inhabit.
Rita_Poon
Player Valuation: £90m
The dock at the court house isn't a cell.
Big Sams Undies
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Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £6m
10 out of 10 for observation. Bit weird to be taking the side of serial killer of babies but hey ho, takes all sorts.
Rita_Poon
Player Valuation: £90m
wanna try that again...
bring the ghost on
Player Valuation: £35m
This, coming from someone who believes that Letby should be acquitted because the evidence doesn’t quite meet your unrealistic burden of proof. Keep trolling, mate.
I`ve heard she`s a secret Rangers fan and was the Chester Lodge Queen two years running.