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Today’s Football 2020/21 Season

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mahermi1 said:
Jesus hope your never anywhere near a jury if I'm the accused pal, hang em high would be your motto, just joking there btw, can't go on with this any further, we are not going to agree on anything, so let's just leave it there eh.
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I honestly have no issue with loosening up the rules regarding sending offs but right now I'm always told contact to the face and you're in trouble. Except not now. Just weird one. I appreciate most people disagree but I'm just tired of the inconsistency really.
 
TheBigIguana said:
On this incident sure, but on the larger point do you really think having referees trying to read intent is a good thing? I don't get it with handballs and I don't really think it is a good idea with stuff like this either. You really can't ever be sure what the guy is meaning to do.
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Ultimately thats exactly what referee's do when it comes to bookings. I mean for every challenge that is 'deemed' a yellow card some refs dont give a card all together and some would give a red card.

Football as a sport thrives on common sense. The laws added in with VAR have made a lot of decisions farcical particularly the offsides - see Adams goal against Utd.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
Ultimately thats exactly what referee's do when it comes to bookings. I mean for every challenge that is 'deemed' a yellow card some refs dont give a card all together and some would give a red card.

Football as a sport thrives on common sense. The laws added in with VAR have made a lot of decisions farcical particularly the offsides - see Adams goal against Utd.
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I hate this. I hate that referees are massively inconsistent with what constitutes a yellow. I mean I get that different people will see things differently but there just seem to be complete gaps in how one guy does it versus the next. Atkinson refuses to call basically anything nowadays while Moss and Mason are so scared of the players that teams go into their games knowing every dive is going to be given. It's quite dumb.
 
Daytripper said:
It’s too easy to create a narrative these days mate. If I’m wrong then I take it back, these referees , there is nothing amiable about most of them and it’s quite staggering that a job like that seems to be infallible to critical repercussions most of the time from employers.

There are many more jobs in the world far tougher than being a football referee.
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I hate most of these referees and feel a good number of them are corrupt or biased. Such a large percentage of them say they support lower division clubs or lower to mid tsble clubs, and that is obviously not true.

There is also a culture of not blowing thewhistle un less the player goes down, not punishing various forms of shothousery like kicking the ball away and playing advantage as long as possession is retained even though a freekick would be I n a dangerous position. I grind my teeth at some of this as I watch it, not just games involving everton.

The incident in question definitely looks like an accident to me, but how much leeway does the referee have for a swinging elbow that connects and is on VAR?

Btw, even refereeing at the youth level is difficult...you will be punished for mistakes and be made to look foolish. If these top level refs weren't so corrupt they'd have my sympathy.

Rant for the day is done.
 
TheBigIguana said:
I honestly have no issue with loosening up the rules regarding sending offs but right now I'm always told contact to the face and you're in trouble. Except not now. Just weird one. I appreciate most people disagree but I'm just tired of the inconsistency really.
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Your right and I believe wrong on this issue I feel. I know that sounds daft, but facial contact, normally always were told leads to a sending off, but not if it's accidental and that is our bone of contention, you believe it wasn't, I believe the opposite. Fair enough I hope.
 

Lineker said:
I hate most of these referees and feel a good number of them are corrupt or biased. Such a large percentage of them say they support lower division clubs or lower to mid tsble clubs, and that is obviously not true.

There is also a culture of not blowing thewhistle un less the player goes down, not punishing various forms of shothousery like kicking the ball away and playing advantage as long as possession is retained even though a freekick would be I n a dangerous position. I grind my teeth at some of this as I watch it, not just games involving everton.

The incident in question definitely looks like an accident to me, but how much leeway does the referee have for a swinging elbow that connects and is on VAR?

Btw, even refereeing at the youth level is difficult...you will be punished for mistakes and be made to look foolish. If these top level refs weren't so corrupt they'd have my sympathy.

Rant for the day is done.
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Anthony Taylor supporting some 6th division side lol.

That second paragraph is spot on though. And it isn't even all referees fault but it really is time to start to get a grip on things. I'd love to see bookings for diving, kicking the ball away, that horrendous thing players do where they kick it out and point and shout that it should be there ball and all other kinds of shithousery. If players actually risk accumulating yellows and getting sent off for this behaviour they would reign it in.
 
TheBigIguana said:
I hate this. I hate that referees are massively inconsistent with what constitutes a yellow. I mean I get that different people will see things differently but there just seem to be complete gaps in how one guy does it versus the next. Atkinson refuses to call basically anything nowadays while Moss and Mason are so scared of the players that teams go into their games knowing every dive is going to be given. It's quite dumb.
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But referee's are human. You seem to want no ref whatsoever and just some drone that circles the stadium picking up everything to the nth degree.

Its both unrealistic and spoiling the game. The pandemic has come at the right time for VAR as there would be murder in the stands after some of the decisions that have been given this season / last.

Obviously its the laws rather than VAR as a tool but its become daft and creating just as much controversy as its helped prevent.
 
TheBigIguana said:
I hate this. I hate that referees are massively inconsistent with what constitutes a yellow. I mean I get that different people will see things differently but there just seem to be complete gaps in how one guy does it versus the next. Atkinson refuses to call basically anything nowadays while Moss and Mason are so scared of the players that teams go into their games knowing every dive is going to be given. It's quite dumb.
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No mate.
Moss and Mason give cards and free kicks to give themselves a breather cos they are knackered.

I bet on cards a lot, believe me, there are some bad fouls that don’t result in a card.
Tom Davies got away with an early foul the other night that was a nailed on yellow btw. Would have changed his performance that as well.
 

ForeverBlue92 said:
But referee's are human. You seem to want no ref whatsoever and just some drone that circles the stadium picking up everything to the nth degree.

Its both unrealistic and spoiling the game. The pandemic has come at the right time for VAR as there would be murder in the stands after some of the decisions that have been given this season / last.

Obviously its the laws rather than VAR as a tool but its become daft and creating just as much controversy as its helped prevent.
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The difference week to week is too fast for me and crucially major decisions which should be more uniformly defined aren't.
 

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