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Today’s Football 2021/22 Season

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NathDogg said:
I never said they weren't decent players before they signed for the dopers, but they certainly were not great players - they were ok players, doing decent and showing ok-ish form in some bang average leagues.

Sadly, Ok average players do go for big fees - haven't you been watching Evertons transfer policy in recent - Iceland, iwobi, tosun etc?!

Thinking about it, I'll give you Kdb - he was in decent nick for Wolfsburg tbh, so my bad on him.

Look at Salah - can't get a kick for Chelsea, goes on loan to italy, scores a handful of goals for fiorentina then Roma - nothing to suggest he is going to explode form and goal-wise, the way he has for the rs.

Diaz looked like hed never seen a football for Porto in the cl this season imo, absolutley anonymous - two weeks at the rs and he's flying?

What's your thoughts on the rise and fall of coutino? Just one of those things, bad luck etc?
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There was plenty in Italy to suggest Salah was a high level player mate
 
Nymzee said:
I mean you absolutely did say that: "never setting the world on fire but ok, average - Bernardo Silva, walker, de bryne, Salah, mane, Jota, Diaz, Rat face Robertson, coutino etc."

Bernardo Silva: Instrumental in Monaco reaching CL semi-final and winning Monaco first league title in 17 years before he signed for over £40m.
Kyle Walker: 2x PFA team of the year right-back at Spurs before signing for over £45m. Was he not just as fast and fit there before they signed him?
De Bruyne: Pulled up silly numbers in Germany before signing for over £50m and showing the same form in the PL straight away.
Salah: Murdered teams in the CL before Chelsea signed him, lots of loans out, had nearly a 1-in-2 goal ratio at Roma before signing for the RS for nearly £40m.
Mane: Ripped up the PL with Saints, terrorising full-backs with his pace before signing for them for over £30m.

I could go on but the point is these were not just "ok" "never setting the world on fire" "average" players that were signed and magically became amazing and super fit. The fact is most people don't watch football players until they get to the PL so they have no real way of comparing them before and after.

Sadly you just have to say: hats off, well scouted, well coached. We've spent millions on tosh, they have too but some of them really came off. These players weren't slow and unfit before they joined the top 2 teams but you'd know that if you knew them beforehand. Leeds consistently run further and sprint more than these teams but are never once accused of doping.

Re: Coutinho? I honestly never thought was as good as everyone said anyway and was gobsmacked at the Barcelona move. He's also doing really well at Villa now, are they juicing him up?
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I think I just said I've saw plenty of them to see what they were like before they joined the pl teams in my previous posts, that they were of course decent players and I also never said they were unfit or slow before my friend. I know they had pace or some skill with a football at their feet (or both) in some cases - nothing pointed to the expolsion we have seen

However, It's the consistentcy and reproducibility of their stellar performances now that is the indicator of something else at play imo, in what is so called the most physically demanding league in the world, other than just "good coaching" etc.

Any way, up the blues - hope we run harder and faster than we have all season tonight.
 



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