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Today's Football 2017-18 Season
- Thread starter ToffeeDan
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For NI to finish last in the 2nd placed groups.
1) They must lose to Norway (reducing current relevant GD of +5) - A draw would be sufficient
2) Wales must beat RoI to achieve 14 points - or RoI must beat Wales to achieve 13 points (currently +1 goals, so perhaps win by 3)
3) Croatia must win in Ukraine to achieve 14 points or Ukraine must beat Croatia - either by about 3 goals.
4) Scotland need to win by about 4 or 5 goals
5) key - Bosnia must lose and Greece sneak 2nd place in that group
Current 2nd - high-low points
High Low
France 21 17
Portugal 19 18
Italy 17 14
Denmark 16 13
Northern Ireland 16 13
Wales 14 12
Croatia 14 12
Scotland 14 12
B&H 11 9
1) They must lose to Norway (reducing current relevant GD of +5) - A draw would be sufficient
2) Wales must beat RoI to achieve 14 points - or RoI must beat Wales to achieve 13 points (currently +1 goals, so perhaps win by 3)
3) Croatia must win in Ukraine to achieve 14 points or Ukraine must beat Croatia - either by about 3 goals.
4) Scotland need to win by about 4 or 5 goals
5) key - Bosnia must lose and Greece sneak 2nd place in that group
Current 2nd - high-low points
High Low
France 21 17
Portugal 19 18
Italy 17 14
Denmark 16 13
Northern Ireland 16 13
Wales 14 12
Croatia 14 12
Scotland 14 12
B&H 11 9
Professor Toffee
On and on, over the hill and the craic is good
The towerRyan Babbel playing for the Dutch
NI are guaranteed a spot regardless of other games, if they avoid losing by more than a single goal. If they lose by more than one goal, they will be through regardless if Scotland fail to win, Ukraine and Croatia draw, Wales and ROI draw, or if Denmark lose very heavily (never gonna happen).
Scotland must win. Their GD is far inferior to others so if they drew, they would almost certainly miss out with 12 points on GD.
Wales almost certainly need a win to go through although a draw could be enough if Scotland and Slovakia fail to win, or Croatia and Ukraine draw.
ROI need to win and quite possibly will have to increase their GD too.
I hope I'm right in what I'm saying but it's flipping confusing lol
Feel free to correct me where I'm wrong.
TheBigIguana
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Scotland won't finish second if they don't win so the tiebreaker makes no difference
@ToffeeTim plus NI play after Scotland etc have played earlier tomorrow night so could already be safely in the play-offs.
They could do in theory with only a draw if Slovakia don't win. But yes that's extremely unlikely.
If they win their game (to finish 2nd) they add 3 points to their relevant record against the top 5 - Gives then 14 points which is more than Greece and B@H can achieve.
TheBigIguana
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Right and if they don't win they won't finish second. So it truly is win and you're in for them
Armel
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As it stands; it's really not likely that Northern Ireland doesn't qualify.
Worst seconds atm:
Points Goal difference [there should should be some kind of table option because it's quite difficult like this; is there an option?]
Portugal 18 18
Italy 14 3
Sweden 13 10
Denmark 13 7
NI 13 5 (10 goals scored)
Greece 13 4 (9 goals scored) (played an extra match!!!)
Wales 11 2 (7 goals scored)
Croatia 11 2 (6 goals scored)
Scotland 11 -1 (8 goals scored)
It was one of those three for sure
Had it not been for an excellent Nobby Stiles man marking job in Eusebio, I think Portugal would have won that World Cup
Definitely any of the four semi final sides would have made deserving winners
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