Today's Football - 2023/2024 Season

[matty1878]

Not saying he isnt. But that post was about one of his best mates' lad playing in a cup final.

oh i’m not saying you never mate just he a bell he’s been another everton yes man

well no more freebies aye bellew

 

[JelavicBrate2]

Yeah, defo not just a case of him being a world class manager. Far more likely that he’s been illegally doping an entire squad of footballers over the course of 7/8 years, with absolutely nothing showing up in drug tests, and no word from ex-players, staff or any other whistleblowers. The doping excuse was trotted out a few years back to explain players not getting injured, but now they have a lengthy injury list and that’s somehow also the fault of doping??

I’ll leave you to crafting your tin foil hat.

Is he a great manager? My view with Liverpool's success recently is it's fishy to say the least. Liverpool's play isn't based in skill, like Guardiolas Barca, Wenger Arsenal or some other great teams over the years. His success has been built on playing with high intensity, relying on getting Salah or Mane in behind. The great Arsenal, Chelsea, United or City sides didn't almost always win. Also he's had off seasons where they have been awful with exactly The same players and manager. United struggled when Beckham left, later on Tevez, Rooney and Scholes leaving. Arsenal struggled when Pires, Bergkamp, Henry, Viera, Sol Campbell, Seaman, Cole and Keown either retired or left. Liverpool struggled when they sold Suarez. What makes zero sense about Klopps success is, their form didn't drastically perform upon his arrival. Lost to City and Sevilla in his first season. 2nd season got knocked out of League Cup by Southampton, got knocked out at home in FA cup against Championship Wolves. Struggled to beat Plymouth in 3rd round. 3rd season mikes behind Man City, get through easy group, playing Maribor and Spartak Moscow. Let Seville back from 3-0 up. I'd argue City were stupid to agree to play at Anfield, they should of simply said they were scared for their safety and not walked out. UEFA couldn't say anything then. Nearly managed to let Roma back in the 2nd leg and that's when they had VVD. Got beat in final. Lost to West Brom at Anfield in FA Cup. Lost 3 games in the group stage in 2018/2019 season. Only got out of group stage, because Napoli missed so many chances in Belgrade. So you can't say it was either his arrival, nor VVD, Mane, Salah or Alissons arrivals that changed Liverpool's fortunes. Chelseas form.hugely improved when Mouriniho arrived at first. Wenger genuinly revolutionised the premier league what changed things then mate? Also can you explain how Just an Klopps Liverpool are the only team in history, where none of the players who have left during Klopps time at Liverpool have done anything upon leaving. Dzeko didn't become crap when he left City, Lukaku reclaimed his form in Milan. Alonso had a great career after leaving Liverpool, Henry didn't become crap when left Arsenal. Players like Barry, Eto and Rooney came to us at the end of their careers, but they'd been viewed as quality players from.a young age. He turned Henderson and Milner who were never great in their prime, to players who can play week in week out, playing high intensity tactics. Barca had to rest their whole team after the first leg against Liverpool at Camp Nou, Klopp didn't rest anyone played against Newcastle in a highly intense game, then Liverpool players managed to go out a put in the performance of a lifetime against a Barca side who should of had an advantage. Makes perfect sense under your logic that Barca who have had some of the best sides in history recently, employ people who can't possibly know more about fitness and tactics than Fuhrer Klopp.

 

[PITA]

Is he a great manager? My view with Liverpool's success recently is it's fishy to say the least. Liverpool's play isn't based in skill, like Guardiolas Barca, Wenger Arsenal or some other great teams over the years. His success has been built on playing with high intensity, relying on getting Salah or Mane in behind. The great Arsenal, Chelsea, United or City sides didn't almost always win. Also he's had off seasons where they have been awful with exactly The same players and manager. United struggled when Beckham left, later on Tevez, Rooney and Scholes leaving. Arsenal struggled when Pires, Bergkamp, Henry, Viera, Sol Campbell, Seaman, Cole and Keown either retired or left. Liverpool struggled when they sold Suarez. What makes zero sense about Klopps success is, their form didn't drastically perform upon his arrival. Lost to City and Sevilla in his first season. 2nd season got knocked out of League Cup by Southampton, got knocked out at home in FA cup against Championship Wolves. Struggled to beat Plymouth in 3rd round. 3rd season mikes behind Man City, get through easy group, playing Maribor and Spartak Moscow. Let Seville back from 3-0 up. I'd argue City were stupid to agree to play at Anfield, they should of simply said they were scared for their safety and not walked out. UEFA couldn't say anything then. Nearly managed to let Roma back in the 2nd leg and that's when they had VVD. Got beat in final. Lost to West Brom at Anfield in FA Cup. Lost 3 games in the group stage in 2018/2019 season. Only got out of group stage, because Napoli missed so many chances in Belgrade. So you can't say it was either his arrival, nor VVD, Mane, Salah or Alissons arrivals that changed Liverpool's fortunes. Chelseas form.hugely improved when Mouriniho arrived at first. Wenger genuinly revolutionised the premier league what changed things then mate? Also can you explain how Just an Klopps Liverpool are the only team in history, where none of the players who have left during Klopps time at Liverpool have done anything upon leaving. Dzeko didn't become crap when he left City, Lukaku reclaimed his form in Milan. Alonso had a great career after leaving Liverpool, Henry didn't become crap when left Arsenal. Players like Barry, Eto and Rooney came to us at the end of their careers, but they'd been viewed as quality players from.a young age. He turned Henderson and Milner who were never great in their prime, to players who can play week in week out, playing high intensity tactics. Barca had to rest their whole team after the first leg against Liverpool at Camp Nou, Klopp didn't rest anyone played against Newcastle in a highly intense game, then Liverpool players managed to go out a put in the performance of a lifetime against a Barca side who should of had an advantage. Makes perfect sense under your logic that Barca who have had some of the best sides in history recently, employ people who can't possibly know more about fitness and tactics than Fuhrer Klopp.

In that list of games that you mentioned you neglected to list the 2-2 draw with West Brom at Anfield. What a glorious night that was.

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

Is he a great manager? My view with Liverpool's success recently is it's fishy to say the least. Liverpool's play isn't based in skill, like Guardiolas Barca, Wenger Arsenal or some other great teams over the years. His success has been built on playing with high intensity, relying on getting Salah or Mane in behind. The great Arsenal, Chelsea, United or City sides didn't almost always win. Also he's had off seasons where they have been awful with exactly The same players and manager. United struggled when Beckham left, later on Tevez, Rooney and Scholes leaving. Arsenal struggled when Pires, Bergkamp, Henry, Viera, Sol Campbell, Seaman, Cole and Keown either retired or left. Liverpool struggled when they sold Suarez. What makes zero sense about Klopps success is, their form didn't drastically perform upon his arrival. Lost to City and Sevilla in his first season. 2nd season got knocked out of League Cup by Southampton, got knocked out at home in FA cup against Championship Wolves. Struggled to beat Plymouth in 3rd round. 3rd season mikes behind Man City, get through easy group, playing Maribor and Spartak Moscow. Let Seville back from 3-0 up. I'd argue City were stupid to agree to play at Anfield, they should of simply said they were scared for their safety and not walked out. UEFA couldn't say anything then. Nearly managed to let Roma back in the 2nd leg and that's when they had VVD. Got beat in final. Lost to West Brom at Anfield in FA Cup. Lost 3 games in the group stage in 2018/2019 season. Only got out of group stage, because Napoli missed so many chances in Belgrade. So you can't say it was either his arrival, nor VVD, Mane, Salah or Alissons arrivals that changed Liverpool's fortunes. Chelseas form.hugely improved when Mouriniho arrived at first. Wenger genuinly revolutionised the premier league what changed things then mate? Also can you explain how Just an Klopps Liverpool are the only team in history, where none of the players who have left during Klopps time at Liverpool have done anything upon leaving. Dzeko didn't become crap when he left City, Lukaku reclaimed his form in Milan. Alonso had a great career after leaving Liverpool, Henry didn't become crap when left Arsenal. Players like Barry, Eto and Rooney came to us at the end of their careers, but they'd been viewed as quality players from.a young age. He turned Henderson and Milner who were never great in their prime, to players who can play week in week out, playing high intensity tactics. Barca had to rest their whole team after the first leg against Liverpool at Camp Nou, Klopp didn't rest anyone played against Newcastle in a highly intense game, then Liverpool players managed to go out a put in the performance of a lifetime against a Barca side who should of had an advantage. Makes perfect sense under your logic that Barca who have had some of the best sides in history recently, employ people who can't possibly know more about fitness and tactics than Fuhrer Klopp.

First of all, what an absolute word vomit that was.

To summarise:

You think that average players being turned into better ones under Klopp’s management, and subsequently not playing as well at other teams is not an example of good coaching, but rather a product of some unnamed “fishy” conspiracy?

The fact that they had some shocking results and average (or worse) seasons shows exactly the baseline level of the squads they’ve had over the years, and the scale of the overachievement as a whole since he’s been there.

He’s an unlikable scruff and the manager of our biggest rivals, so I get why it’s a hard one to take, but he’s a truly excellent manager.

Wetting the bed and making up nonsense about PEDs to avoid admitting as much just kind of makes you look a bit odd, to be honest.

 

[NathDogg]

They never got fined by anyone.

Sorry mate, you’re spot on, they paid City a £1million quid settlement didn’t they.

For a clear sporting advantage…

 

[witchdoc187]

First of all, what an absolute word vomit that was.

To summarise:

You think that average players being turned into better ones under Klopp’s management, and subsequently not playing as well at other teams is not an example of good coaching, but rather a product of some unnamed “fishy” conspiracy?

The fact that they had some shocking results and average (or worse) seasons shows exactly the baseline level of the squads they’ve had over the years, and the scale of the overachievement as a whole since he’s been there.

He’s an unlikable scruff and the manager of our biggest rivals, so I get why it’s a hard one to take, but he’s a truly excellent manager.

Wetting the bed and making up nonsense about PEDs to avoid admitting as much just kind of makes you look a bit odd, to be honest.

You need to take off your red tinted glasses mate. As an evertonian with a completely objective view I can tell you he's [Poor language removed]

 

[Zed Car]

He'll be football's Everly Brothers.

Twatty Clown

 

[dublinbluenose]

Is he a great manager? My view with Liverpool's success recently is it's fishy to say the least. Liverpool's play isn't based in skill, like Guardiolas Barca, Wenger Arsenal or some other great teams over the years. His success has been built on playing with high intensity, relying on getting Salah or Mane in behind. The great Arsenal, Chelsea, United or City sides didn't almost always win. Also he's had off seasons where they have been awful with exactly The same players and manager. United struggled when Beckham left, later on Tevez, Rooney and Scholes leaving. Arsenal struggled when Pires, Bergkamp, Henry, Viera, Sol Campbell, Seaman, Cole and Keown either retired or left. Liverpool struggled when they sold Suarez. What makes zero sense about Klopps success is, their form didn't drastically perform upon his arrival. Lost to City and Sevilla in his first season. 2nd season got knocked out of League Cup by Southampton, got knocked out at home in FA cup against Championship Wolves. Struggled to beat Plymouth in 3rd round. 3rd season mikes behind Man City, get through easy group, playing Maribor and Spartak Moscow. Let Seville back from 3-0 up. I'd argue City were stupid to agree to play at Anfield, they should of simply said they were scared for their safety and not walked out. UEFA couldn't say anything then. Nearly managed to let Roma back in the 2nd leg and that's when they had VVD. Got beat in final. Lost to West Brom at Anfield in FA Cup. Lost 3 games in the group stage in 2018/2019 season. Only got out of group stage, because Napoli missed so many chances in Belgrade. So you can't say it was either his arrival, nor VVD, Mane, Salah or Alissons arrivals that changed Liverpool's fortunes. Chelseas form.hugely improved when Mouriniho arrived at first. Wenger genuinly revolutionised the premier league what changed things then mate? Also can you explain how Just an Klopps Liverpool are the only team in history, where none of the players who have left during Klopps time at Liverpool have done anything upon leaving. Dzeko didn't become crap when he left City, Lukaku reclaimed his form in Milan. Alonso had a great career after leaving Liverpool, Henry didn't become crap when left Arsenal. Players like Barry, Eto and Rooney came to us at the end of their careers, but they'd been viewed as quality players from.a young age. He turned Henderson and Milner who were never great in their prime, to players who can play week in week out, playing high intensity tactics. Barca had to rest their whole team after the first leg against Liverpool at Camp Nou, Klopp didn't rest anyone played against Newcastle in a highly intense game, then Liverpool players managed to go out a put in the performance of a lifetime against a Barca side who should of had an advantage. Makes perfect sense under your logic that Barca who have had some of the best sides in history recently, employ people who can't possibly know more about fitness and tactics than Fuhrer Klopp.

 

[carolinablue232]

Inter Messi is playing the LA Galaxy tonight. Galaxy well on top and Busquets is nothing more than a traffic cone at this point. Old Barca doesn’t seem to be working for Beckham here.

 

[Littlesue]

In that list of games that you mentioned you neglected to list the 2-2 draw with West Brom at Anfield. What a glorious night that was.

Well they were 2 0 down at half time

 

[GoldenToffee]

Absolutely diabolical performance by Chelsea that. Typically came against the RS. Can bet if it was us against Chelsea they'd have converted five of those chances.

 

[FCBarça]

Inter Messi is playing the LA Galaxy tonight. Galaxy well on top and Busquets is nothing more than a traffic cone at this point. Old Barca doesn’t seem to be working for Beckham here.

Selling out and exploding the exposure of the game in USofA? Seems like it is working even better than they could’ve imagined

 

[NathDogg]

Absolutely diabolical performance by Chelsea that. Typically came against the RS. Can bet if it was us against Chelsea they'd have converted five of those chances.

He’s absolutley finished after admitting this nonsense, just unbelievable from a manager of any team, but especially with their resources and against the bloody record the opposition have on pens.

Clueless cowardly management - you could tell that’s what he was after the way they started the extra time, but to admit it openly. I’d want him sacked today if I’m Chelsea, total bottler.

 

[mahermi1]

First of all, what an absolute word vomit that was.

To summarise:

You think that average players being turned into better ones under Klopp’s management, and subsequently not playing as well at other teams is not an example of good coaching, but rather a product of some unnamed “fishy” conspiracy?

The fact that they had some shocking results and average (or worse) seasons shows exactly the baseline level of the squads they’ve had over the years, and the scale of the overachievement as a whole since he’s been there.

He’s an unlikable scruff and the manager of our biggest rivals, so I get why it’s a hard one to take, but he’s a truly excellent manager.

Wetting the bed and making up nonsense about PEDs to avoid admitting as much just kind of makes you look a bit odd, to be honest.

It helps a bit though, when them average players are supplemented with world class and very expensive imports. It's not just Klopp who should get all the credit it's his coaching team around them too. They have a gut wrenching will to win and credit to the kids being brought through. Right where did I leave my sick bucket ??

 

[Brett Angell Delight]

It helps a bit though, when them average players are supplemented with world class and very expensive imports. It's not just Klopp who should get all the credit it's his coaching team around them too. They have a gut wrenching will to win and credit to the kids being brought through. Right where did I leave my sick bucket ??

Way of the world; managers get the credit for wins and blamed when it goes to pot. Of course, his coaching staff will have played a massive part too.

Players would clearly run through walls for him, though, and that’s why I think there’ll be a drop-off from next season (assuming he doesn’t pull a u-turn immediately after the Quadruple bus parade).