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Today's Football - 2023/2024 Season

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Billy Dean said:
You have to be pretty bad to fail to qualify for the euros these days
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What was interesting (for me, anyway) was the caveat since the Euros were expanded, I would have put real money on 92 or 88 even being a sixteen team tournament.

Imagine UEFA or FIFA running such a streamlined event now, it's unthinkable. You can argue the break up of the Soviet Union, but perhaps more, Yugoslavia, were driving factors but it's shaken me a bit to realise how much these tournaments have changed in my lifetime.

Feeling my age here.
 

heatmeiser said:
Other than Hargreaves, everyone else you've mentioned was raised in England.

So no, it isn't the same as people like Glaswegian Haughton, Yorkshireman Mick McCarthy, scouser John Aldridge, cockney Andy Townsend etc etc

And that was kind of the point
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Oh so if Ray Houghton had been born in Scotland but was brought up in Ireland then people wouldn’t be using it to point score would they?

We both know that’s not true
 
Bohemian Toffee said:
What was interesting (for me, anyway) was the caveat since the Euros were expanded, I would have put real money on 92 or 88 even being a sixteen team tournament.

Imagine UEFA or FIFA running such a streamlined event now, it's unthinkable. You can argue the break up of the Soviet Union, but perhaps more, Yugoslavia, were driving factors but it's shaken me a bit to realise how much these tournaments have changed in my lifetime.

Feeling my age here.
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Yeah I can remember them. 8 teams only then straight to the semis. I guess maybe the increase generally in quality of European teams? For example there were countries like Turkey who were whipping boys in the 80s but improved quite a lot in the 90s. Probably other examples of that too
 

MikeH72 said:
He reminds me of Zidane. Not arsed if people want to laugh at that, come back in 10 years time and see if you’re still laughing.
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He’s got everything hasn’t he? Even Gazza close control v Leyton orient class. No, he’s one who is genuinely worth the press hype . I think he made a good move in going abroad to get away from the ‘inbred’ media in this country. Wears shinnies in heads and vols as well
 
Nightman said:
Harry Maguire really helping himself this morning, with comments and judgment about England fans booing ex-footballer Henderson.
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Feel like he was also talking about himself tbh, in his case the booing was quite harsh… his biggest crime was making mistakes on the pitch whereas the hate for Henderson comes from a much more justifiable place.
 

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