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I feel bad for Pep given everything that has happened in the past week. The thing is though I don't even rate this Madrid side as being up there with Bayern and Dortmund of last season or the Barca side before that. It is all set up for Jose to deny them isn't it? lol
 
Also, Neur seriously wtf? Could tell he was going to have a bad game after he made a basic error in the first couple of minutes. Yes he's quite possibly the bitw but when he's off his game it's like being at the circus sometimes.
 
Also, Neur seriously wtf? Could tell he was going to have a bad game after he made a basic error in the first couple of minutes. Yes he's quite possibly the bitw but when he's off his game it's like being at the circus sometimes.

Neuer?
 
thought mourhinio was going to win the champions league in his time in spain, obviously i was wrong on that front.

But two points;

1) Ancellotti is one of the best managers in football, hands down. He has won trophies in several different countries now and league titles, as well as european cups. People seem to forget about him being up there but in my eyes he is a top manager.

2) Real have Bale. Bale is a match winner and him being part of a team that also includes ronaldo, modric, benzema is frightening. Plus the young side of the team, irralemendi (spelling?), Isco, Casermo, Morata, Rodriguez could give them grounds to move forward and devleop a youth set up for the first time in decades. Real Madrid right now are the pinnicle of european football with the team they have, although Bayern could well have been the best under different leadership.
 

If there's one thing Bayern's failure has taught us its that you should never say that a team is the 'pinnacle of european football' until they actually are. For example, it wasn't the initial Barca victory in 2009 which put them there. It was the follow up in 2011 which confirmed it.
 
There's no way to really say who the "best" player in the world is, because it's all subjective

You could argue someone like Ryan Giggs was the "best" a few weeks ago, because of all the trophies he'd won

It's a pretty pointless argument to be honest

Still fun to watch people argue though
 
If I had shelled out tens of euros for a seat behind the goals, I would have been seriously angry with them massive flags being waved all match. Still, better than watching your team being creamed I suppose?
 
There's no way to really say who the "best" player in the world is, because it's all subjective

You could argue someone like Ryan Giggs was the "best" a few weeks ago, because of all the trophies he'd won

It's a pretty pointless argument to be honest

Still fun to watch people argue though


There cannot be a 'Best Player in the World'.....there can however be a 'Best Goalkeeper, Best Left Back etc in the World'.......
 
There cannot be a 'Best Player in the World'.....there can however be a 'Best Goalkeeper, Best Left Back etc in the World'.......

Again though, it's subjective

I mean, I suppose you could corralate clean sheets, tackles made, passes made and assists for all the LB's in the world, but they all play in different leagues so then you'd have to rate the leagues themselves and then see how the performance of the player matches the difficulty of the league etc

Fraser Forster had a huge run of clean sheets in consecutive matches this season, I think it's the 2nd or 3rd longest in European history (And he beat the Scottish record), but you wouldn't say he was the best GK in the world, even though you could use the stats alone to make a pretty convincing argument
 

Have to disagree on the Guardiola bashing. He turned a very very good Barca team into one of the best club sides in history with a unique tactical style. He was never going to improve on what Bayern did last year but won the league with them at an absolute canter. Let's see how he gets on when he's been there a year or 2 more.
 
Again though, it's subjective

I mean, I suppose you could corralate clean sheets, tackles made, passes made and assists for all the LB's in the world, but they all play in different leagues so then you'd have to rate the leagues themselves and then see how the performance of the player matches the difficulty of the league etc

Fraser Forster had a huge run of clean sheets in consecutive matches this season, I think it's the 2nd or 3rd longest in European history (And he beat the Scottish record), but you wouldn't say he was the best GK in the world, even though you could use the stats alone to make a pretty convincing argument

Why go to all that bother? We all know that Liverpool have the best player in every position, the best manager, the best banners, badges, et al.
 
Have to disagree on the Guardiola bashing. He turned a very very good Barca team into one of the best club sides in history with a unique tactical style. He was never going to improve on what Bayern did last year but won the league with them at an absolute canter. Let's see how he gets on when he's been there a year or 2 more.

Some people are certainly too quick to judge, but based on what I've seen this Bayern side is not as good as last seasons. It is Pep's tactics and strategy which has largely contributed to this. They need to go back to what they are good at.

As the saying goes if it's not broken why fix it?
 
Some people are certainly too quick to judge, but based on what I've seen this Bayern side is not as good as last seasons. It is Pep's tactics and strategy which has largely contributed to this. They need to go back to what they are good at.

As the saying goes if it's not broken why fix it?

True but he was appointed by Bayern to bring his own philosophy and identity to the club. If they wanted to play as they did last year, they could've just kept Heynckes on.
 

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