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Ever the optimist me,that west ham result for me now means we win our game in hand v Aston Villa,then turn the ammers over and we are only behind them in fourth on goal difference....it's still on!!!!(I know,shoot me now and put me out of my misery lol )

Me too. If we win our game in hand 3-0 and beat the Hammers 3-0 we go above them on goal difference!!
 
I know a certain horrible club not so far away who would certainly believe it was achievable!!

Always believe until it isn't possible. I've seen so many strange things come about because of belief. The only problem is all the other teams fans will say the same and we can't all make it on belief but while it's there it's to be aimed for!
 
We've not won enough must win games.. weekends when those around us slip up and we have an "easy" home game which we either lose or draw.. any form at home against weaker sides would have us comfortably in the top 4.
 

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Even if that was true, we don’t have the depth other clubs do so it still hurts is worse. Our whole bench is U23s and keepers these U23s you should be somewhere near good

Even if that was true, we don’t have the depth other clubs do so it still hurts is worse. Our whole bench is U23s and keepers these days
If your U23s you should be somewhere near the first team
 
Its ultimately down to the culture of the club - if you're a player and you rock up at Real or Bayern or Utd type club you know the expectations are to succeed and win.

Thats not the same at Everton and if you dont have players who are elite level and want to be the best and win stuff - imo you have to be the one as manager to constantly be hammering these players to keep expectations up.

Thats why we are so Jekyll and Hyde in terms of performances - these players largely as a collective squad turn up when they want its that simple and thats where Carlo has to look to adapt his management style to get the best out of this group of players.

And thats brings me back to my point earlier that I never get the feeling that these players care if they play badly or not as their isnt any repercussions - whereas like them or not you wouldn't want to go back into the dressing room after being hooked earlier by a Alex Fergusen or a Pep, Klopp, Simeone etc who look like they would hammer you in the dressing room.
He should be using Big Dunc for the hairdryer treatment
 
Another missed opportunity and yet here we are, seven points off third with a game in hand. What is wrong with these top-tier teams. Can't they just all win and be done with it so that we are out of the running...unbelievably selfish of them.
 

So with announcement of a European super league, I assume the FA kick them out and now we’re fourth?
 
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