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Ty Browning

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Aye, got the nickname Baby Distin when he started training with the first team iirc, Unsworth also called him the best one vs one tackler at the club.

Lad has the right mentality though, was impressed when rather than spend an extra week on holiday last summer he opted to go with Unsworth for preseason so he was ahead of the curve when he joined the first team for preseason a week later. As you've poointed out in the past, hard work and an eagerness to learn doesn't always make up for raw natural talent but it can certainly help especially for a coach like Koeman who seems to value pressing.

....I remember last pre-season, LL. Almost every shot of the training in Austria showed him out front in the running sessions.
 
See I disagree. He very well might be right about Browning. Nobody knows how it will turn out for the lad.

But saying that a player is finished if they haven't made it by age 22 is complete and utter wham that deserves pulling up. The fact that he stood by that argument after being proven wrong deserved even more public ridicule.

And to my comment...I did love how he got pulled up on it and then claimed bullying.

No mate.

If it were the other way around and he wasn't letting you speak I would say the same.

Disagree by all means. But leave it at that.

Its a forum.

Discussion and debate is the name of the game. If you don't agree. Thats fine. No one will agree 100% of the time.:coffee:
 
Would have made it by now

It's called realism

If you can name me players who have played at reserve level / loans until 23 then all of a sudden get regular first team premier league football? Then be my guest

It's exactly what you said...and we proved you wrong over and over and over and over...you are wrong.

You might end up being right about Ty. Doesn't change the fact that you are still wrong.
 
It's exactly what you said...and we proved you wrong over and over and over and over...you are wrong.

You might end up being right about Ty. Doesn't change the fact that you are still wrong.

Where does it say there that all players over 23 won't make it?
 

You asked for examples and we provided them in large numbers. You refused to admit that it's not glue factory time for a player at that age to make it.

You gave me examples, but my point was the stats show that the majority don't make it after that age. Ty just text me asking if you wanted to arrange a time to lick his """"
 

Personally, and I would be delighted to be proven wrong here, I don't think this lad will cut it with us.

It has nothing to do with his injury

He is an unbelievable athlete, powerful and very fast, but it sort of boils down to the fact that with the ball at his feet he is incredibly limited and I'm not sure how that is ever going to realistically improve enough for him to be a Premier League level defender.

With enough experience, he might develop into a decent centre half at a lesser level team, but his lack of ability on the ball means I can't ever see him as a full back. Holgate has demonstrated what is required in that role.

Hope he does on to have a good career, just doubt it will be with us, not that that's a disgrace - the proportion of young players who break into the fringes of the 1st team and stay and become a fixture is pretty small.

To quote an Everton youth coach who will remain nameless, his problem is "he can't play".
 
Good to see Tyias Browning on the road to recovery.

I think he'd benefit from a couple of months playing in our under 23's games, getting introduced back into things slowly before going out on loan for the rest of the season in January. See how gets on, and then big summer for him next year.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-everton-striker-arouna-kone-11849862
Nice article that, thanks for posting - reflects well on Kone as well.
 

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