Vaping - Popcorn Lung

[Ashtonian]

interesting stuff. except for one little thing....

There is 100 times the level of diacytel in a cigarette than there is In an e cig. yet smokers haven't developed the symptom? weird that.......

It is a dangerous substance to inhale and one company who was found to have higher than most levels of the stuff have had their reputation destroyed because of it so vapers are aware of the danger. Hell even one company that makes flavourings have brought a new range of non diectyal to counter it. But you would need extremely high amounts of the stuff to see any effect and as mentioned, companies are making sure they don't contain any, and has done for a while

but this is old news, more paid for negativity through the media to sour the name of vaping, in fact this is at least 8 months late to the party. Tbh the vaping industry were quick to call out companies involved back in April which led to the drive to remove it from liquids. So the industry was 8 months AHEAD of the media? or the media didn't care back then because they were peddling some other nonsense story about vaping in general.

so yeah, more paid for media because the tobaaco and pharmaceutical companies are losing money. sad really.

 

[Ashtonian]

Calling @Ashtonian , where are you to defend you're beloved when it matters ?

there you go mate.

I think it's disgusting the way these Vaping companies portray themselves as a healthy option and spend fortunes getting new generations of people hooked on this killer drug.

I know you are taking the mick but another DID YOU KNOW moment, propylene glycerol is half of the e liquid....also used in inhalers?

ecigs don't do the same job but the same stuff that's in a medicine for asthma sufferers is also found in the healthier version of smoking. Mad that.......

 

[Ashtonian]

oh and @COYBL25

 

[Moomin]

interesting stuff. except for one little thing....

There is 100 times the level of diacytel in a cigarette than there is In an e cig. yet smokers haven't developed the symptom? weird that.......

It is a dangerous substance to inhale and one company who was found to have higher than most levels of the stuff have had their reputation destroyed because of it so vapers are aware of the danger. Hell even one company that makes flavourings have brought a new range of non diectyal to counter it. But you would need extremely high amounts of the stuff to see any effect and as mentioned, companies are making sure they don't contain any, and has done for a while

but this is old news, more paid for negativity through the media to sour the name of vaping, in fact this is at least 8 months late to the party. Tbh the vaping industry were quick to call out companies involved back in April which led to the drive to remove it from liquids. So the industry was 8 months AHEAD of the media? or the media didn't care back then because they were peddling some other nonsense story about vaping in general.

so yeah, more paid for media because the tobaaco and pharmaceutical companies are losing money. sad really.

Independent review by Harvard University, not one paid by the tobacco and pharmaceutical companies though.

Think you are being caught up in the spin and lies of the vaping companies. The tobacco companies back in the day paid doctors to advertise for them, you are believing the spin from the vaping companies. Even they don't know the long term damage, they just care about profits and getting people addicted.

 

[blue61]

Sucking on anything long and hard on a regular basis can never be good for your health.

 

[Tubey]

Independent review by Harvard University, not one paid by the tobacco and pharmaceutical companies though.

Think you are being caught up in the spin and lies of the vaping companies. The tobacco companies back in the day paid doctors to advertise for them, you are believing the spin from the vaping companies. Even they don't know the long term damage, they just care about profits and getting people addicted.

He's actually right though that normal cigarettes contain 100 times more of the stuff in question than e-cigarettes.

 

[Jags..class]

Had anyone got popcorn lung from e cigs yet

 

[Ashtonian]

Independent review by Harvard University, not one paid by the tobacco and pharmaceutical companies though.

Think you are being caught up in the spin and lies of the vaping companies. The tobacco companies back in the day paid doctors to advertise for them, you are believing the spin from the vaping companies. Even they don't know the long term damage, they just care about profits and getting people addicted.

See here is the thing mate. Normally i would be agreeing except for one thing....

You got that from Gizmodo! Same article in tabloid newspaper the mirror, or The bro bible etc

Again it holds no value when Gizmodo and the bro bible are running the story and not something a little bit more reputable in the field.

I would say the daily sport doing an article on it is just as reliable

 

[Ashtonian]

Sucking on anything long and hard on a regular basis can never be good for your health.

There may be some long term effects from vaping mate, but vaping has been around for at least 3-4 years so far and nothing has been found. Only positives have been reported from switching to it (obviously using neither is even better for you)

Had anyone got popcorn lung from e cigs yet

Mate there has been very few if any cases of ANY illness that is directly related to vaping.

In fact the only case of 'popcorn lung' was from some fellas working in a popcorn factory.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

This is the worst fashion statement of the lot . The last decade has seen some terrible inventions

Social media

E cigs

Legal highs ( get a bag of lemo you scruff)

Ket wigs

Reality tv shows like towie

Bearded hipster beauts

Men wearing skinny jeans ( file under hipster beaut)

The tattoo industry boom . Birds covered in tattoos is a bad shame.

Bring back the 90s but without Walter smith.

The obsession with going to 'fezzies' and making sure the whole world knows about it . I'm not arsed mate

Men that look like women, women that look like men.

Welcome to 2015

ket wigs and not getting a haircut aren't a new thing, we all did it in out 'teenthage years.

I don't use them but surely they have to be better than tobacco? And I'm a smoker.

I think we all know which is the safer alternative to cigs or e-cigs, when govts realise that if it was legal then they'd get away with a lot more cos the nation would be pacified then they'll open up 'dispensaries' all over the shop, look at North Korea theyre all too stoned to give a sh1t.

 

[l4toffee]

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ket wigs and not getting a haircut aren't a new thing, we all did it in out 'teenthage years.





I think we all know which is the safer alternative to cigs or e-cigs, when govts realise that if it was legal then they'd get away with a lot more cos the nation would be pacified then they'll open up 'dispensaries' all over the shop, look at North Korea theyre all too stoned to give a sh1t.

 

[Ashtonian]

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I think we all know which is the safer alternative to cigs or e-cigs, when govts realise that if it was legal then they'd get away with a lot more cos the nation would be pacified then they'll open up 'dispensaries' all over the shop, look at North Korea theyre all too stoned to give a sh1t.

If anything mate, tobbacco industries should be pushing for that anyway rather than worrying about Vaping. After all, everyone still needs tobacco in that scenario, compared to the one where there is none at all.

 

[The Cowboy]

Anyway, I've had a good listen to 'Vaping' on Spotify, and I'd say it stands up well against all of Popcorn Lung's recent albums.

 

[Reidy's Bottle Of Grecian]

If anything mate, tobbacco industries should be pushing for that anyway rather than worrying about Vaping. After all, everyone still needs tobacco in that scenario, compared to the one where there is none at all.

not necessarily, in fact there are more ways of consuming it without baccy than with.

* I don't partake any more btw and am obviously applying for jobs that would mean that I wouldnt even be have to 'have a drag.'

 

[Jacko93]

there you go mate.


I know you are taking the mick but another DID YOU KNOW moment, propylene glycerol is half of the e liquid....also used in inhalers?

ecigs don't do the same job but the same stuff that's in a medicine for asthma sufferers is also found in the healthier version of smoking. Mad that.......

Vaping is hardly good for you mate. I'm not going to burn my lads inhaler and give him a toke am I? Theres plenty of stuff that's perfectly fine for you till you burn it