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Not entirely.

Anti vaxxers deliberately or otherwise don't differentiate between ethyl mercury and methyl mercury. Ethyl mercury, the one found in some vaccines, passes through the system. Methyl mercury accumulates.

I wouldn't know mate. Just sounds a bit like the whole "let's scream about mercury" argument, without even knowing some of the simple differences between elements and compounds as you say.

I would assume (quite possibly incorrectly), that the ingredient in ecigs that ashtonian refers to would be something similar i.e. behaves completely different to that in an inhaler
 
Wow, you believe the people who want you to use there products so they can profit from you before independent world renowned Universities.

If domestos told you it was safe to drink bleach would you drink it?
haha ran out of things in the article to argue with me against?

That is the thing about the vaping industry that anyone, including yourself, does not actually realise.


There is no driving force with vaping. There is no source of equipment, there is many different companies that make hardware.

there is no source of the liquid. 3 quarters of the companies who make it probably started as a start up business at some point and grew from there.

there is no main source of shops or merchandise source, the many shops you see are self owned, with only a few chains who are supplied by stockists.

So who am i listening to mate? the english fella making the liquid (who is me funnily enough) , the chinese making the equipment? The french or italians making the flavours, or the americans reviewing the products?

Compared to the big company who sell cigarettes, from the same places, the same factories and the same brandings.
 
haha ran out of things in the article to argue with me against?

That is the thing about the vaping industry that anyone, including yourself, does not actually realise.


There is no driving force with vaping. There is no source of equipment, there is many different companies that make hardware.

there is no source of the liquid. 3 quarters of the companies who make it probably started as a start up business at some point and grew from there.

there is no main source of shops or merchandise source, the many shops you see are self owned, with only a few chains who are supplied by stockists.

So who am i listening to mate? the english fella making the liquid (who is me funnily enough) , the chinese making the equipment? The french or italians making the flavours, or the americans reviewing the products?

Compared to the big company who sell cigarettes, from the same places, the same factories and the same brandings.

Tobacco companies have a big involvement in vaping, quite a few of these companies you talk about are owned by them. You keep saying they are the enemy, but in most cases vaping is an off shoot of these companies.

They are playing you for a fool, it will be years before the full truth comes out.
 
Tobacco companies have a big involvement in vaping, quite a few of these companies you talk about are owned by them. You keep saying they are the enemy, but in most cases vaping is an off shoot of these companies.

They are playing you for a fool, it will be years before the full truth comes out.
Actually mate they don't.

what companies do? KANGATECH aren't, ASPIRE aren't, SMOK aren't, SEIGELI aren't, UWELL aren't, i could go on.

these are the manufacturers of the hardware, none of them are owned by any tobacco company, i would put my life on that i am confident.

If i sell my liquid, does that make me owned by the tobacco company? If i open a youtube channel am i owned by them? Are the same flavouring made, that are used in baking, owned by tobacco companies?
considering the legislation being forced through the EU, vaping would be a losing market for Tobbaco companies to invest in, especially when their product is still on the shelf.
 

Actually mate they don't.

what companies do? KANGATECH aren't, ASPIRE aren't, SMOK aren't, SEIGELI aren't, UWELL aren't, i could go on.

these are the manufacturers of the hardware, none of them are owned by any tobacco company, i would put my life on that i am confident.

If i sell my liquid, does that make me owned by the tobacco company? If i open a youtube channel am i owned by them? Are the same flavouring made, that are used in baking, owned by tobacco companies?
considering the legislation being forced through the EU, vaping would be a losing market for Tobbaco companies to invest in, especially when their product is still on the shelf.

Wait a minute, you make your own liquid? Do you sell it??
 
Wait a minute, you make your own liquid? Do you sell it??

I don't no, only for myself.

May sell some onto a mate for a non profit thing, just to make more but no i am not selling my liquids.

and only would sell it on because it would save him money at the same time.
 

So you are basically a drug dealer, no wonder you hate the tobacco companies, they are your competition.
trying to set that one up? haha saw it a mile off :p

but i'm not a drug dealer as i would make it nicotine free meaning no 'drugs' in at whatsoever
 
no, otherwise you would need a licence to buy the nicotine which is openly sold.

Can even buy it on ebay.

You don't need a licence to buy cigarettes but you do need one to manufacture and distribute them like you've just admitted to.

I think you're on very dangerous ground here Ashton. What if one of you customers has an adverse reaction to your stash and something bad happens. You hear about dealers being locked up all the time for selling kids dodgy e's and stuff.
 
trying to set that one up? haha saw it a mile off :p

but i'm not a drug dealer as i would make it nicotine free meaning no 'drugs' in at whatsoever

Buying shady produce off E-bay, mixing it up yourself with no legislation or health and safety procedures. Selling it at cost to mates to get them hooked and then put the price up on them.

All this while criticising the tobacco companies, at least they pay tax to help fund the NHS. You are worse than these companies, no wonder you are trying to make out its safe. In years to come you will realise the error of your ways when your friends sue you for damage to there health.
 
Guess what?

I'm not arsed. Coffee'll give me cancer this week - next week, it'll stave off my dementia.

That cheese you had on your toast - was it cooked to 70 degrees C for exactly 4 minutes? No?

Careful now!

'Popcorn' indeed. Phooey. :dodgy:
 
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