duncs pigeon
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Watching Plymouth v Leeds, no VAR, no added time- oh the good old days. On a side note, the linesman flag for offside immediately, non of this waiting lark.
Why don't they adhere to the "clear and obvious" mantra that is supposed to govern VAR If your taking 5-10 minutes watching a slow motion replay and having all sorts of lines drawn it blatantly isn't clear and obvious. The way it is implemented in this country has ruined goal celebrations. It needs scrapping completely and just stick with eagle eye.
This is about the only way I think they could make it worse! Imagine we were in an important game and they checked a goal against us for offside and they're sat in Stockley Park watching the striker punch the ball into the net but he's not allowed to say anything because it wasn't what he got asked to check we'd be raging!
I'd go further, it should be the on field ref who needs to ask for help from VAR, say if he was unsighted or he didnt catch all of an incident or if it was a close thing and he wants a second look. Even as you suggest, there is a subliminal message to the on field ref they have got it wrong and their review of the footage is tainted/biased.I think that they should not have the power to influence the ref at all.
I think that their powers on decision making , pens, red cards etc should be limited to.
Recommendation for ref to check monitor.
No verbal communication while he’s doing so, just a simple “please review the footage”
The ref can make the call without his mates commenting on what they’re looking at.
Then the ref can change his mind if he likes without any pressure and can make the right call as he sees it.
If he has missed something or not seen something then that’s what VAR should help with. Give him the info he needs to make the right call. Not all the BS comments as he’s looking at it which will definitely be influencing him as he is watching
But how does a ref know what he didn’t see?I'd go further, it should be the on field ref who needs to ask for help from VAR, say if he was unsighted or he didnt catch all of an incident or if it was a close thing and he wants a second look. Even as you suggest, there is a subliminal message to the on field ref they have got it wrong and their review of the footage is tainted/biased.
The long and short of it is, they dont want it to work properly, they want it to work in the way that suits them,
say there is another player that was between the ref and the incident, perhaps the ref was looking the other way but hears a scream and a player going down off the ball, perhaps the ref thinks the ball was close to a hand but couldn't quite see, perhaps the ball was close to the line and the ref wanted to check whether it had gone out. I could go on.But how does a ref know what he didn’t see?
As Rumsfeld said, there are known unknowns, and unknown unknowns.
I'd go further, it should be the on field ref who needs to ask for help from VAR, say if he was unsighted or he didnt catch all of an incident or if it was a close thing and he wants a second look. Even as you suggest, there is a subliminal message to the on field ref they have got it wrong and their review of the footage is tainted/biased.
The long and short of it is, they dont want it to work properly, they want it to work in the way that suits them,
Baffled who they asked.
Wait, what did I do?I just wish it would VARnish.
And those are all valid, but suppose the ref didn’t hear a scream of another player going down off the ball, or was unsighted and never even imagined the ball might have hit someone’s hand…say there is another player that was between the ref and the incident, perhaps the ref was looking the other way but hears a scream and a player going down off the ball, perhaps the ref thinks the ball was close to a hand but couldn't quite see, perhaps the ball was close to the line and the ref wanted to check whether it had gone out. I could go on.
Baffled who they asked.