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VAR

Don't expect it to get voted through, but if say nine or ten clubs voted to get rid of it, it massively undermines the use of it. And with three clubs coming up and three going down every year, it'd only be a matter of time before a majority was there.

I have mixed feelings on it because VAR is obviously frustrating, but I've never found the five minutes it takes to come to a decision to be more annoying than, say, John Terry being 3 yards offside when he equalises for Chelsea in the last minute in 2016.

Today, referees get things wrong in spite of having VAR (i.e. they're idiots). Before 2019, they got it wrong because they didn't have the technology. Giving bad referees fewer looks at an incident isn't going to improve things.

But I can see why people would rather not have it.
 
samcdavies94 said:
Don't expect it to get voted through, but if say nine or ten clubs voted to get rid of it, it massively undermines the use of it. And with three clubs coming up and three going down every year, it'd only be a matter of time before a majority was there.

I have mixed feelings on it because VAR is obviously frustrating, but I've never found the five minutes it takes to come to a decision to be more annoying than, say, John Terry being 3 yards offside when he equalises for Chelsea in the last minute in 2016.

Today, referees get things wrong in spite of having VAR (i.e. they're idiots). Before 2019, they got it wrong because they didn't have the technology. Giving bad referees fewer looks at an incident isn't going to improve things.

But I can see why people would rather not have it.
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They just need to hire the best refs in Europe. You watch other leagues and international football and the refs are just better, especially with VAR. To be honest the whole VAR debate mostly focus on offside. The league should just tell Nike to get the technology in the footballs for the automatic offside. That would solve a lot of the issues.
 
I don’t think it’s perfect even in Europe. Look at the linesman flagging Munich offside right at the end of their match in Madrid last week - why flag when you know VAR will bail you out. It smacks of corruption to get Madrid through.

Semi-automated offsides should improve it a bit, but there needs to be some sort of rule to stop the forensic examination to see whether teeth/toes/pubes are offside or not. If you can’t determine it inside 30 seconds then consider the attacker level and give the goal.
 

samcdavies94 said:
Don't expect it to get voted through, but if say nine or ten clubs voted to get rid of it, it massively undermines the use of it. And with three clubs coming up and three going down every year, it'd only be a matter of time before a majority was there.

I have mixed feelings on it because VAR is obviously frustrating, but I've never found the five minutes it takes to come to a decision to be more annoying than, say, John Terry being 3 yards offside when he equalises for Chelsea in the last minute in 2016.

Today, referees get things wrong in spite of having VAR (i.e. they're idiots). Before 2019, they got it wrong because they didn't have the technology. Giving bad referees fewer looks at an incident isn't going to improve things.

But I can see why people would rather not have it.
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People have short memories.

That first time we get screwed, royally, because of an awful call that VAR easily would have overturned, people will be back screaming for VAR.

VAR has its issues, sure, and the powers that be should be tasked with finding ways to fix it. The most blatant of these is fixing its application of the offside rule.

Scrapping it altogether would be knee jerk and not make things better, in my opinion.
 
No VAR, attacker marginally offside, goal given, fans see replay on TV, get pissed off and demand technology. Said technology denies a goal because attacker offside by a fingernail, fans get pissed off and demand removal of technology.
Rinse and repeat.
There isn't a perfect system, but I'd lean toward dumping VAR with the proviso that there has to be a visible gap between defender and attacker to give offside. Fouls unnoticed in the buildup? Hard cheese.
 

MisterJ said:
I think it's probably the right decision, technology just isn't there yet and more wrong than right

If it was just there for offsides and to be available to the referee on the referees request only, then it would probably be fine.

As it is, they are using it to shadow referee the game, overriding the on field referees decisions and therefore undermining him. It's inconsistently applied with decisions taking far too long and the fans not being told why.

Plus the VAR refs themselves are shockingly bad.

All in all, good idea, poorly applied and not really ready for implementing yet
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This and the fact that I he big clubs still get the decisions.
 

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