EGWToffee
Player Valuation: £8m
The way the lad's been playing and his consistent improvement,I think that's a little unfair. Hes become a really capable defender and competition will only make him improve further.
dannyboy
Player Valuation: £60m
I think we've been too accommodating as a club with players who aren't good enough. We've been in and around the relegation zone for a long time now so we need to get past the idea that these players are going to click and send us to mid table.
Problem with Mykolenko is that even if he plays well it still stifles the whole attacking set up. Performances last night are really good in terms of his defending but how much of an outlet did he provide for our centre mids when we were in possession? If we got a good footballing left back in during the summer I think people will be really taken a back (in a good way) on how it transforms the team.
Drico
Player Valuation: £60m
Go away with those standards of yours. We can't be having those...
You are absolutely correct. Evertonians - starved of quality for so long - get sentimental about mediocre players having the odd competent performance instead of judging them over the medium to long term. We've had Mykolenko for years. Bang average. He's not going to develop into Paolo Maldini at this point, however much we might wish it otherwise.
He'll probably stay for a while as we have more pressing needs elsewhere, but he's not good enough for a side with ambition. When we finally have that, he'll be on his bike.
Marius57
Player Valuation: £60m
Considering he had the 2nd best passing accuracy on our team and 2/3rd of his passes went forwards and was motm for us, seems a bit harsh to focus on him.
How much outlet did OBrien offer on the other side by the way? Who made the same amount of forward passes as Myko (but less total passes) but with less accuracy.
EGWToffee
Player Valuation: £8m
There’s not many fullbacks in the game that are good at going both ways and those are the ones that you pay real good money for.
Don’t get me wrong if we were consistently playing Champions League football then I’d agree he’d fall below that level. But let’s not forget where we are right now.
Under Moyes he’s certainly getting forward a lot more. What he needs to work on is his final ball in the forward areas. We’ve been spoilt previously with Baines and Digne who excell at that so he’s always going to be judged on those two players.
He was superb last night marking Salah completely out the game last ditch challenged and a massive work ethic.
He’s improved year on year and who’s to say he wont keep improving.
dannyboy
Player Valuation: £60m
O'Brien is a centre half doing a job for us at full back. We can carry on with Mykolenko if we want but then we can't complain when we've ended up in the bottom 6 again. You can't have full backs as bad on the ball as ours and expect any more than that.
I think it makes sense for him to be in the squad and to possibly come in for games like last night, or to see out a result, but we need a pacy and attacking minded option that starts the majority of games
He is much improved but he isn’t of the standard required
He is much improved but he isn’t of the standard required
He had a good game because he's a competent top level footballer. We don't have to go massively over the top or talk about it as if he's likely to improve loads and add previously unseen dimensions to his game at 26 and with 300 games behind him. He is what he is, a decent hard working player who thrives when given a man marking type role to do in a set up where the team doesn't allow too much space for the opposition. It's not a miracle when he plays well because he's a player we spent the best part of £20m on and he has about 50 caps for his country, but unfortunately he probably isn't good enough to be a regular starter if we have ambitions higher than continuing where we are at the moment.
Always does a fairly good job against Salah
He does mate...he's not rash in his decision making when it comes to Salah.
I always feel confident in Myko doing a job on him.
Let have it right..how many time does a winger get the better of him? Not many.
It's the rest of his game that lets him down unfortunately.
Pabbers
Player Valuation: £60m
I think his communication is poor too.....probably just down to him being a quiet lad, and not great / confident with the language.
Salah's header chance was down to him and Gana not talking and nobody picking him up.
The odd moment like that aside, he is a very good defender.....past the halfway line though....wow, he is terrible.
@Pabbers Yeah he does seem to be a bit of a shrinking violet,his talking throughout the game is minimal.
Yeah he's a very sound defender but it's stops there.
We're probably at a bit of a crossroads with him to be honest,he's out of contract next year so I wouldn't be surprised to see him moved on in the summer.
Yeah he's a very sound defender but it's stops there.
We're probably at a bit of a crossroads with him to be honest,he's out of contract next year so I wouldn't be surprised to see him moved on in the summer.
Osamabindiesel
Player Valuation: £70m
Its not as simple as 'not many defenders are good on both sides.' What hurts Myko more than anything is his lack of pace. You don't have to be Maradona, but you need to be able to get up and support your midfielders and have the pace to get back. You'd ideally want a defender that can cross and threaten in attacking situations, but Myko lacks just about anything that makes him an attacking threat. Whoever is on the wings is often left for dead. Ndiaye can compensate. Other guys like Harrison cannot.
If there is one thing myko has is pace...he is not that good going forward because his passing, crossing and shooting ability is basically the same than an average ball playing center half. Still love the guy and hope he extends his contract. Perhaps we can have another more attacking young left back, and rotate myko especially in games where we need to defend more.
I think we'll try and extend to protect his value and because he's our only left back. Interesting to see who we get in though and if it's a first team replacement with mykolenko on the bench.
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