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Walter Smith

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Neiler said:
He signed Graveson and Carsley to no?
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I remember the day we signed both Carsley and Ginola very well. It was after lunch break at school, when my rs supporting best friend broke the news to me. Guess what he say's whilst laughing his head off, you've just signed Lee Carsley and David Ginola! Ha ha ha he sure wasn't laughing, when Carsley scored that derby winner at Goodison.lol He was right about Ginola though. What a sad and desperate last throw of the dice that was.
 
A manager who never had a fiar crack of the whip in the end here. managed us during our darkest time and managed to still keep us up. I don;t really have any fond memories of him being here but then it was a long period of time for most fans those 90s.

A great man who will no doubt be missed by many, never heard a bad word said about him in all these years.
 

I liked the way the mentioned his achievements at Rangers then went on to say he took over an ailing Everton side.
 
catcherintherye said:
Not that it matters, but I do think time has looked favourably on Walter.

For many years, when you saw the job Moyes did, what he did probably looked poor. However having seen the last 5 years, and the mess a number of managers with far greater resources have made, it gives some perspective.

Ironically, I think had Walter been given the resources we had now back then (in relative form) he would have produced a top 6, even top 4 team. He had a great eye for talent and character. His Rangers teams the 1st time round were at the top 4-6 level in this country, of that I have no doubt.

He probably struggled with getting the best from poorer players, and probably developing younger players, and was probably at the club at tbe wrong time.

All that is incidental though, and while he is understandably associated with Rangers far more than us, I'm sure every Evertonians thoughts will be with him and his family.
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Different objectives though mate.

Smith and Moyes were tasked with hunkering down and preserving PL status; those following (until Benitez) have been tasked with gate crashing the top 4/5 season in, season out.

If Smith had been Everton's manager in this era he'd have been gone earlier than 4 seasons.
 
WS will ultimately be remembered for playing 6-8 defenders in "that" GP derby, losing 3-0 to 'Boro in the FAQF, and bringing in a fair chunk of elder players (Gazza, Hughes, Gough, Ginola to name a few).
Positively as mentioned above, he did have an eye for talent shown by his first transfer window of Materazzi, Dacourt, Collins and did manage to get to 3 FA Cup quarter finals out of 4 seasons. However, he was also in charge at a time when Johnson was making trades between us and Tranmere (e.g. Simonsen for £3m!) and selling players behind the managers back.
 

davek said:
Different objectives though mate.

Smith and Moyes were tasked with hunkering down and preserving PL status; those following (until Benitez) have been tasked with gate crashing the top 4/5 season in, season out.

If Smith had been Everton's manager in this era he'd have been gone earlier than 4 seasons.
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I probably think all of that is true mate, but also it doesn't necessarily contradict what I said.

Had he achieved the same results, yes he would have gone. I think Smith was really a bit of a throwback, and in honesty was looking a little out of touch back then, so not sure would have suited the modern game.

However he did buy well in a lot of instances, and I suspect would have spent the money better than we have over the last 5 years. He worked on a comparative shoe string, even when you factor in the inflation in prices.
 
davek said:
Different objectives though mate.

Smith and Moyes were tasked with hunkering down and preserving PL status; those following (until Benitez) have been tasked with gate crashing the top 4/5 season in, season out.

If Smith had been Everton's manager in this era he'd have been gone earlier than 4 seasons.
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How do you know that? With money, Smith might have been successful. He was able to get a rubbish Rangers into the UEFA Cup, and won nine in a row as well.
 
catcherintherye said:
I think Smith was really a bit of a throwback, and in honesty was looking a little out of touch back then, so not sure would have suited the modern game.

However he did buy well in a lot of instances, and I suspect would have spent the money better than we have over the last 5 years. He worked on a comparative shoe string, even when you factor in the inflation in prices.
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That's not really fair. He was told he would get big money to spend, but instead found his best players constantly getting sold from under him.

He was good enough for Alex Ferguson to make him his assistant manager before he dragged Scotland back to respectability.
 

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