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So I bought a seiko prospex around this time last year and felt it just never kept good time was needing to be fixed everyday. I sent to the company that does seiko repairs and got it back today. I've no idea what I'm looking at here.

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It looks like the upper page is the testing when it arrived for repair. They hooked it up to a timing machine and this is the readout before they adjusted/fixed it (I assume). The s/d is really all you need to know, and that is the number of seconds it was off per day. The CH, CB, 9, 6, 3, 12, refer to the position the watch was in when the reading was taken. Simply put: gravity affects mechanical watches and will affect their accuracy if the watch is placed dial down, dial up, or on it's side with the crown up, down, or at 12 or 6 (which is what the 3, 6, 9, 12 refer to). This often why mechanical watches are advertized as "adjusted in 6 positions" as they are meant to keep time no matter how the watch is positioned, such as when you take it off at night and put it on its side on your night stand. The D is the range of s/d and X is the average. So in the upper sheet your watch lost an average of 86.3 s/d (and has a high range depending on what position the watch was in--like if you left it crown facing up, it would lose 92.8 s/d) and in the lower sheet your watch, after adjustment, gains 8.4 s/d but with a much smaller range of 8.1 s/d. Offhand I don't know what Di and DVH stand for.

The amplitude is a metric that tells you the angle of the "swing" of the balance wheel (think of it like measuring the angle in a grandfather clock pendulum as it swings from its axis). The balance wheel is what gives the watch its accuracy; it is like a round "gear" that rotates in one direction then rotates in the other that causes second hand to move--amplitude measures this rotation of the balance wheel in degrees. Too small an angle--it's not rotating to its fullest--and it would indicate that the lubrication is breaking down; too much of an angle--over rotating--would indicate the mainspring (that powers the balance wheel) might be too tight/powerful. Most watches have a range of amplitudes between 250-300 with 270 being the sweet spot. The beat error is the difference in the amount of time it takes for the balance wheel to swing in one direction relative to the other direction (sort of like if the pendulum took longer to swing in one direction than the other...this would indicate something is off).
 
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It looks like the upper page is the testing when it arrived for repair. They hooked it up to a timing machine and this is the readout before they adjusted/fixed it (I assume). The s/d is really all you need to know, and that is the number of seconds it was off per day. The CH, CB, 9, 6, 3, 12, refer to the position the watch was in when the reading was taken. Simply put: gravity affects mechanical watches and will affect their accuracy if the watch is placed dial down, dial up, or on it's side with the crown up, down, or at 12 or 6 (which is what the 3, 6, 9, 12 refer to). This often why mechanical watches are advertized as "adjusted in 6 positions" as they are meant to keep time no matter how the watch is positioned, such as when you take it off at night and put it on its side on your night stand. The D is the range of s/d and X is the average. So in the upper sheet your watch lost an average of 86.3 s/d (and has a high range depending on what position the watch was in--like if you left it crown facing up, it would lose 92.8 s/d) and in the lower sheet your watch, after adjustment, gains 8.4 s/d but with a much smaller range of 8.1 s/d. Offhand I don't know what Di and DVH stand for.

The amplitude is a metric that tells you the angle of the "swing" of the balance wheel (think of it like measuring the angle in a grandfather clock pendulum as it swings from its axis). The balance wheel is what gives the watch its accuracy; it is like a round "gear" that rotates in one direction then rotates in the other that causes second hand to move--amplitude measures this rotation of the balance wheel in degrees. Too small an angle--it's not rotating to its fullest--and it would indicate that the lubrication is breaking down; too much of an angle--over rotating--would indicate the mainspring (that powers the balance wheel) might be too tight/powerful. Most watches have a range of amplitudes between 250-300 with 270 being the sweet spot. The beat error is the difference in the amount of time it takes for the balance wheel to swing in one direction relative to the other direction (sort of like if the pendulum took longer to swing in one direction than the other...this would indicate something is off).
Thanks for the detailed reply. I assumed the top sheet was original test and it appears it did need adjustment I wasn't sure.
 
Watch collectors….. what would you pay for this ….. its tag heuer formula 1 with all papers and boxes … advertised as excellent condition only worn twice
 

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Watch collectors….. what would you pay for this ….. its tag heuer formula 1 with all papers and boxes … advertised as excellent condition only worn twice

Try and find a similar one on there. They are pricier than a private sale.
 

Watch collectors….. what would you pay for this ….. its tag heuer formula 1 with all papers and boxes … advertised as excellent condition only worn twice
I'm basically echoing what @Yarrgh said.

It's hard to tell which exact model it is from the picture I'm guessing its model # WAZ2011.BA0842, and if it's the model I'm thinking of, then it's a decent price (so long as they are describing the condition accurately).

Here's a link to various Calibre 5 Formula 1 models, and many are listed as new/unworn for 1200-200. Note there is a quartz model that looks quite similar to the automatic mechanical model, which is a major distinction and difference in price.
 
What are you thoughts on this new chrono from Tudor?

Personally, I love pink in strategically small amounts (e.g., every so often Everton does a 3rd or training kit in black with pink lettering/numbers), and this dial just works for me. Would I buy this watch if I had the money...yes!

Picture from Hodinkee: (comment section on Hodinkee: Rolex has a "pepsi" dial, Tudor has the "pepto" dial)

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/tudor-shocks-us-all-with-the-new-black-bay-chrono-pink

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What are you thoughts on this new chrono from Tudor?

Personally, I love pink in strategically small amounts (e.g., every so often Everton does a 3rd or training kit in black with pink lettering/numbers), and this dial just works for me. Would I buy this watch if I had the money...yes!

Picture from Hodinkee: (comment section on Hodinkee: Rolex has a "pepsi" dial, Tudor has the "pepto" dial)

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/tudor-shocks-us-all-with-the-new-black-bay-chrono-pink

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I always confuse Tudor with Tissot for some reason, but yes, that is a nice watch.

I always wanted one of these:

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They're affordable now. Might just get one for nostalgia sake.
 

What are you thoughts on this new chrono from Tudor?

Personally, I love pink in strategically small amounts (e.g., every so often Everton does a 3rd or training kit in black with pink lettering/numbers), and this dial just works for me. Would I buy this watch if I had the money...yes!

Picture from Hodinkee: (comment section on Hodinkee: Rolex has a "pepsi" dial, Tudor has the "pepto" dial)

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/tudor-shocks-us-all-with-the-new-black-bay-chrono-pink

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I like the concept, but I’m not a huge fan of that shade of pink!😂
Might be one to see in the flesh
 

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