Wayne rooney - the manager

[CharliePotato]

Ancelotti was a good player. He was injury-prone and overshadowed in that Milan side.

Simeone's a good shout out. If he wasn't great as a player, he was very, very good.

As for Zidane - he had that run, but I question whether he'll ultimately be remembered as more than the guy that went on a tear in the CL as a manager.

Guardiola.

 

[Martin Alvito]

Guardiola.

Got him in the initial post as the only one I could think of off the top of my head.

 

[Zatara]

If you read more of his work you wouldn't be syaing that. Liew is probably the best active football writer in the english language. Only Ronay and Valdano can compare

Poppycock...

Meet @catcherintherye !

 

[McBain]

Wasn’t Guardiola fairly limited squad player who excelled in a system? The catalan Tom Davies.

 

[Billy Dean]

Wasn’t Guardiola fairly limited squad player who excelled in a system? The catalan Tom Davies.

He was a world class defensive midfielder/deep lying playmaker

 

[Papa Shango]

The list of great players that became great managers is pretty short. For every Cruyff and Beckenbauer there's a ton of Koemans and Maradonas. Pep's the only active one I can think of.

So I'd say the odds are against greatness.

Deschamps? Conte at a push.

 

[twoblue]

The list of great players that became great managers is pretty short. For every Cruyff and Beckenbauer there's a ton of Koemans and Maradonas. Pep's the only active one I can think of.

So I'd say the odds are against greatness.

Dalglish, erm I’ll get my coat

 

[Martin Alvito]

Wasn’t Guardiola fairly limited squad player who excelled in a system? The catalan Tom Davies.

No, he was exceptional as a player.

Deschamps? Conte at a push.

I'd say Deschamps is fair, if nothing else because of joining Beckenbauer on the captain/manager WC victories list. I don't personally think of him as a great manager (the player mutiny is kind of a big deal), but I'd say it's fair.

I personally have a hard time calling a guy with 20 national team appearances "great" as a player no matter how good he was in the top domestic league. Very good, sure.

Dalglish, erm I’ll get my coat

Sure, but he's not active as a manager.

I think the overall point is made - most great managers were not great players, and as a consequence the odds are against Rooney becoming a great manager despite being a great player. (ie: being a great player doesn't make someone far more likely to be a great manager).

Hopefully, Rooney's experience will be more Gerrard than Lampard in the near term.

 

[Papa Shango]

No, he was exceptional as a player.



I'd say Deschamps is fair, if nothing else because of joining Beckenbauer on the captain/manager WC victories list. I don't personally think of him as a great manager (the player mutiny is kind of a big deal), but I'd say it's fair.

I personally have a hard time calling a guy with 20 national team appearances "great" as a player no matter how good he was in the top domestic league. Very good, sure.



Sure, but he's not active as a manager.

I think the overall point is made - most great managers were not great players, and as a consequence the odds are against Rooney becoming a great manager despite being a great player. (ie: being a great player doesn't make someone far more likely to be a great manager).

Hopefully, Rooney's experience will be more Gerrard than Lampard in the near term.

Yeah its certainly not something that automatically makes you a good manager.

Probably our greatest ever player (Alan Ball) was a pretty poor manager. I think some top stars struggle with management because they can not get their heads around asking players to do stuff that they cant do because they were so good and could do anything in their playing days.

Realistically a successful manager can come from anywhere.

 

[Cool_Blue]

Has an account on here apparently

 

[McBain]

He was a world class defensive midfielder/deep lying playmaker

Im googling his career, and while he formed the crux of a title winning midfield, he was surrounded by World class players. Looks like he also tested positive for Nandrolone, was banned from playing. He rejected several offers to play in the Premier League, probably because of the stringent drug testing.

 

[Billy Dean]

Im googling his career, and while he formed the crux of a title winning midfield, he was surrounded by World class players. Looks like he also tested positive for Nandrolone, was banned from playing. He rejected several offers to play in the Premier League, probably because of the stringent drug testing.

He was cleared of doping IIRC. He was a brilliant player, I remember watching him. Part of their early 90s dream team.

 

[YoboCopter]

Another vital win for wayne

 

[Wat Tyler]

 

[PaddyJames]

I hope he does a good job there and beyond but I would never ever expected him to have been a manager. Plus as has been said, the top players rarely make it as a manager and thats mainly down to their expectations of each player. Must be frustrating for the likes of Roy Keane seeing half-arsed performances in training or on the pitch from player then loosing the dressing room because you call them out on it.