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What defines an Everton legend?

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bainesontoast said:
I mean, I personally think Cahill is a legend, despite what I've said about honours. Simply because he more than made up for his lack of honours elsewhere while he was with us. He was Everton personified. But he's a massive exception when you think about the players we've had over the past decade.

Regrettably, I'd have Baines down as more of a cult hero, despite the username.
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As a club we need individual players to step up and help keep us alive. For me Tim Cahill stood up on numerous occasions. I consider him an Everton legend.
 
blue_aussie05 said:
Absolutely, which is all based on personal opinions and is relative to the era you watched us in.

I'm just thinking, if someone read a book in 30-40 years...would the likes of Ferguson, Cahill, Jagielka, Arteta etc stand the test of time when looking back over our history?
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None of them would realy. Thing is with players like Cahill you would have to of seen him play, i never seen Alan Ball but i understand why he is a legend, but i cant see fans in 30 years time being able to get why Cahill means a lot to some of us. They didnt personaly witness the years he played for us, him being a bright spark in some realy dull times is hard to get across
 

sbbefc said:
Cahill was very good for us and did great job considering our financial contains, but if we were the kind of club in the past 20 years that won things and spent money, I doubt he would get into that type of team. He had all the attributes of a battler and I admire that, but he didn't score or create enough goals.

For me he's not a legend but a top player nonetheless.
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I agree that he isn't necessarily going to be seen in 30-40 years as a legend, but I guess it depends on what happens to us in the next 30-40 years. For example, if we still win nothing during that time the fans will attach themselves to any above average performer who has a connection with the fans, like Cahill or Ferguson.

However, if we start winning trophies again over the next 30-40 years, the Cahill era (and our current one) will be viewed as a more barren period of our history.

I disagree with the quote I've highlighted in bold. Yes, he was never a creator of goals, but I thought his goal ratio from midfield was always pretty decent. He was top scorer for us with 12 goals in his first season, and was relatively consistent most seasons, although this definitely reduced in his last couple with us.

He wasn't as prolific as a Frank Lampard from midfield, but for a team of our standing, his tally was always invaluable.

Loved the way he always enjoyed scoring against the RS, and he also scored important away goals at Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal and the RS too. Oh, and although it was before their recent rise to prominence, he absolutely always scored away at Man City!!

Not a legend for me, but a proper cult hero who loved the club and the fans.
 
glorydaze said:
At my age I have seen a lot of the greats that are legends and I would put Cahill in as he was a bright light in a dull era.
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I think that the 07-09 team was pretty good squad, the best since the 80s. Very consistent in the league and a few decent cup runs. Whilst Cahill was one of our top players I wouldn't single him out. We were incredibly solid at the back (yobo, jags, Lescott), Arteta in top form and the Yak was scoring for fun. Considering how the league as a whole has declined somewhat I'm confident that team would finish comfortably in the top 4 now.
 

If we had done the business against Chelsea in the final Cahill would of been a true great legend of Everton even Hibbert, now where just stuck here debating what a legend is cos we have won nothing for 20 years pretty sad and upsetting really.
 
Aar_the_Toffees said:
In my times Cahill, Baines, Ferguson, super Kev Campbell.
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Super Kevin Campbell may not he a legend in footballing terms, but he is a legend to me for not only saving the club from the near certaintity of relegation with his his goals when he signed on loan, but he also made it acceptable for quality non white players to sign for us. He also changed the attitude of certain sections of the crowd towards non white players too. In essence he almost single handily moved us away from the " Everton are a racist club tag ". I doubt whether Smith was aware of the importance of Super Kev when he signed him, but thats the way these things sometimes happen .
 
It's hard to define and I suppose longevity should come into, but in the end think if a player was exceptionally popular
with the supporters and is remembered long after his retirement he fits the tag.
Most of our present day supporters never saw the likes of Dixie Dean, Dave Hickson, Brian Labone, Roy Vernon, Alex Young and Alan Ball, but I'm sure that they all know that they are Everton legends.
And I haven't even mentioned any of the 1984 to 1987 trophy winning squads.
 

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