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What the hell is going on over there???

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Crikey I wasnt going to get involved but I feel I must stick up for our blue brothers across the pond. Now if someone came on to a forum and completely lambasted my country- I too would get a little upset. Im proud to be English (oh and by the way Im English not British) and my country arent exactly perfect in world affairs.

I personally believe mistakes have been made with the whole Afghans and Iraq situation and it is now a case of how the hell does it get sorted?! America has played its part in this and we have too- to point the finger at America for all this worlds troubles is wrong and not acceptable.

Rob, Ghost if you take pleasure at goading people into an argument and poking fun at someones heritage and lifestyle- you need to take a long hard look at yourself.
 
mick, but like every time I say "we".

WE went to war, america didn't do it alone.
Am I goading people into arguments? I don't believe so, have I poked fun at heritages or lifestyles... when?

You see, living here you do get a different viewpoint, America are very willing to talk to North Korea despite the fact they test Nuclear weapons and have a Nuclear weapons program AND a long range missile program.

Hang on... re-read that. THEY HAVE IT. FACT.

Didn't we go to Iraq to get weapons of mass destruction (in case you missed it rob haters I said WE again)?
And never NEVER found any.

America REFUSES to talk to Iran because they "apparently" have a nuclear weapons program, great, they don't have any missiles to launch them with either.

Why talk to the country with them, but not with the one that is "apparently" trying to get them.

P.S. you got a passport mick? cos if you have check it out, like it or not we are British.
 
well, people think I'm picking a fight with the americans and yet I keep saying we.

I am not pointing fingers at just the US, I'm also pointing them at myself too.
 

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mick, but like every time I say "we".

WE went to war, america didn't do it alone.
Am I goading people into arguments? I don't believe so, have I poked fun at heritages or lifestyles... when?

You see, living here you do get a different viewpoint, America are very willing to talk to North Korea despite the fact they test Nuclear weapons and have a Nuclear weapons program AND a long range missile program.

Hang on... re-read that. THEY HAVE IT. FACT.

Didn't we go to Iraq to get weapons of mass destruction (in case you missed it rob haters I said WE again)?
And never NEVER found any.

America REFUSES to talk to Iran because they "apparently" have a nuclear weapons program, great, they don't have any missiles to launch them with either.

Why talk to the country with them, but not with the one that is "apparently" trying to get them.

P.S. you got a passport mick? cos if you have check it out, like it or not we are British.
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I am what I am, it may say British on my pasport but I was born and raised in England therefore I am English. Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish can call themselves by the country by which they were born why cant I?! I hat eth eumbrella term of Britain...anyway thats another discussion.....

Im not a Rob hater but I dont like tearing into someones country and lifestyle. America has a way of life, like it or not Dylan, TX etc live that way of life. You say 'we' when it suits but who is this pointing at :

For a war on terrorism, this iraq and afghanistan wars have done nothing but trigger attacks.

Madrid, London (x2) etc... way to go!
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And this like it or not Rob is goading:

You need to wake up to the fact that America can and should be criticised because what it does around the world is horrific and what they do to their people back home is no less than brain washing.
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You are directly saying that to our American members and insulting their intellegence by what you are saying.
 
way to go.... blair and bush...

nah, the Intelligent ones can see it, Dylan for example has told me his opinion of these iraq wars and I respect him for telling it like it is.

But when they start all this crap about "lets stand up and pray for our brave troops who are fighting for our way of life and our freedom...."

THATS brain washing, propaganda bullshit, as bad as anything they do in North Korea.

Brave troops, YES VERY!! anybody who puts their lives on the line to protect a nation is extremely brave, Full respect to them.
But protecting a way of life and freedom... hardly.
 
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way to go.... blair and bush...

nah, the Intelligent ones can see it, Dylan for example has told me his opinion of these iraq wars and I respect him for telling it like it is.

But when they start all this crap about "lets stand up and pray for our brave troops who are fighting for our way of life and our freedom...."

THATS brain washing, propaganda bullshit, as bad as anything they do in North Korea.

Brave troops, YES VERY!! anybody who puts their lives on the line to protect a nation is extremely brave, Full respect to them.
But protecting a way of life and freedom... hardly.
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Ok this is the last thing Im going to say on the matter as its not my fight in the 1st place-

By saying to someone that has a difference of opinion to you that they have been brain washed simply because they dont agree with you is insulting someones intellegence. That to me says 'you arent intellegent enough to make up your own mind so your country has made it for you' I personally would find that extremley insulting and i too probably would react like TX did.

Im not having a go at you personally Rob or Ghost or whoever all I am saying is that someones heritage and way of life is personal to them and to blatantly disregard that and tear into all things American in my eyes is wrong.
 
Tx NEVER expressed his opinion on this thread he just had a go at me, which was very verbally abusive not that anybody seems to care about that.

If he wanted to we could have exchanged opinions like adults but oh well.

Sorry, but saying stuff like that and by the way, I saw it on a baseball game at "half time" and all the fans were holding up flags teary eyed believing every word.

Surely we all know that the wars in afghanistan and iraq weren't about fighting terrorism because as we have seen terrorism has gone up, it wasn't about finding weapons of mass destruction because there wasn't any.

I have not torn into american heritage or anybody's way of life.

I believe what they do via the media is a form of brain washing or propaganda whatever you want to call it.
 
also, the tv stations are "labeled" so that if you don't share an opinion of a certain station then you don't watch it.

So people only watch tv stations that agree with their own opinions, thats pretty dangerous.
 

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also, the tv stations are "labeled" so that if you don't share an opinion of a certain station then you don't watch it.

So people only watch tv stations that agree with their own opinions, thats pretty dangerous.
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surely a label would stop you watching/ reading any repeat programmes/comments
is it possible to get a label for you?

Didnt anyones ol fella ever tell them not to talk politics in an ale house?

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label for me?

Easy, "Young idiot who mostly talks utter bollocks and crap."
 

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