Which managerial sacking was the biggest mistake?

[Carlito]

Everything was rosy then wasn't it...

The decision to appoint him had already been made after a shambolic start from Koeman, and a worrying continuation of the poor form by Unsworth. Which Unsworth himself admitted after the disgusting defeat at Southampton

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42042018

Unsworth said the performance at St Mary's was "not acceptable" and the team need to "get back to basics".

He added: "Confidence is as low as it has ever been. The club has to decide and the sooner that happens the better. The players need this resolving

We got taken apart by them before the West Ham game and the form and performances were as bad as this season or last:

This defeat came just three days after a 5-1 loss to Atalanta in the Europa League, and ex-Everton striker Gary Lineker described the club as "a shambles" as they collapsed at St Mary's.

The Toffees seem rudderless on and off the pitch, and former defender Unsworth has been unable to add any stability since Ronald Koeman was sacked in October.

Everton have now conceded 28 goals in the Premier League this season - their worst tally after 13 games since 1958-59.

Obviously, it came at the end of a terrible run, but as Silva showed the following season, it only needed a half-decent manager to get that group of players comfortably in the top half.

There was no reason to resort to the level of Allardyce.

 

[Toff33Blues99]

Easily Sam. Was doing a good job, we were hard to beat. He would have stabilised for 2 or 3 yrs. The rest of them were lucky to get as long as they did

 

[Colonel Getafe]

Silva is doing ok but Moyes got 6th and 7th so let’s see if Silva will get found out next season.

It's all a bit of revisionism and flavour of the month stuff, isn't it. Moyes was great when he took WH to Europe, now he's rubbish again. Silva wasn't very good, now he's popular again. A few wins one way or losses the other and it's all change again.

 

[MikeH72]

The people who voted Allardyce must have forgot how toxic it was in the ground at the end of that season. There was no way he could’ve stayed on, regardless of the job he was doing he would never have been able to get the fans on his side simply by virtue of the fact he’s Sam Allardyce.

 

[blue_aussie05]

And people saying Allardyce made us hard to beat must be forgetting the 4-0 and 5-1 drubbings away at Spurs and Arsenal

 

[EFC78]

The people who voted Allardyce must have forgot how toxic it was in the ground at the end of that season. There was no way he could’ve stayed on, regardless of the job he was doing he would never have been able to get the fans on his side simply by virtue of the fact he’s Sam Allardyce.

Allardyce deserved to go but he was still the only one out of all those listed who improved our position and had an overall positive effect during his time here.

Replacing him with Marco Silva is where we went wrong.

Like how some of our fanbase like to try and rewrite history with Moyes, and ignore how dire a situation we were in the years before his appointment, the same applies with Allardyce.

So just because we beat West Ham after we'd already decided to appoint him, the form before that is dismissed and annihilations at the hands of Atalanta at Goodison and an out of form Southampton are forgotten about.

 

[4737carlin]

The people who voted Allardyce must have forgot how toxic it was in the ground at the end of that season. There was no way he could’ve stayed on, regardless of the job he was doing he would never have been able to get the fans on his side simply by virtue of the fact he’s Sam Allardyce.

It shouldn't of been toxic though, we were 8th, being toxic then was the kind of insanity Farhad displays

 

[hktoffee]

The people who voted Allardyce must have forgot how toxic it was in the ground at the end of that season. There was no way he could’ve stayed on, regardless of the job he was doing he would never have been able to get the fans on his side simply by virtue of the fact he’s Sam Allardyce.

They shouldn’t be because we were 8th. I think to demand a certain way of playing style now come back to bite us. I don’t care how boring is the football as long as we win 1-0 every match. I hate us to lose 4-5 and pretend it is entertaining.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Surely the message is that the manager isn't so important if everything behind them isn't in shape? We had arguably the most decorated manager of his generation in charge and we still weren't all that.

 

[The Hibbert Agenda]

Allardyce revisionism is mad

 

[Milkman]

Silva had the most potential and wasn't doing too bad a job.

Allardyce's sacking was the most downright unfair after he'd outperformed expectations.

If I could go back in time and sack Koeman all over again, I would, the fat headed biff.

 

[degsy]

Hindsight says 8th place Sam, then maybe Silva.
All the rest were...aided and abetted by; The Owner, 2 DoF, to name but 3...were only going one way -
Down!

 

[degsy]

Allardyce revisionism is mad

Remember its The Hindsight Thread - not the 'how it seemed at the time' thread

8th place*

* how long he would have lasted is another thread - and totally unknowable.

 

[Lawrence]

We kept a very poorly Catterick too long. I do agree with a previous poster about Colin Harvey, sadly our Roy Evans. Recently, Moyes was small time and made us happy to be here and have the odd good time. Sadly since Joe Royle I cant name a good one. Joe got us, he knew Everton needed to be big time

 

[Khalekan]

The thing is, not one of those management sackings was undeserved at the time.

With the possible exception of El Bobbo.

Koeman, Silva and Benitez had us in freefall and very few people were opposed to sacking them.

Sam was always a temporary sticking plaster appointment and the vast majority of us were glad to see him go.

But even in Martinez’s worst sesson, his last, we made two semi finals.

The first of which saw us robbed at City when their first goal was over the bye-line before Sterling crossed to the goalscorer.

And in the second a Lukaku missed penalty did for us.

What I wouldn’t give for two semi finals, a trip to Wembley and a comfortable, relegation battle free season in this day and age.

Marco needed binning when he was fired….but I do feel he was very unlucky here insofar as he and EFC were going well in his first season until Pickfordgate.

That sent the club and fans into a confidence crisis which, although we picked up a bit near the end of that sesson, set his EFC career into tailspin and it never recovered.